Battery Info

   / Battery Info #322  
I picked up a big rolling one recently. Mostly because I wanted one with the manual knobs & no smart electronics. Makes doing things like using it to test starters or power electronics projects easier. Realized it only does 20@ on 6v though, which is annoying. Half the reason for it was the 6v antique bulldozer.

Would have gotten a non rolling unit with smart charging like the one pictured otherwise.
The small book-sized units are great for starting engines, but they can't actually charge a battery. They hold a relatively small amount of charge, but they can dump it all out fast to help a not-dead-yet battery start the car.

The old fashioned big rolling has-its-own-battery units can charge or start... assuming their battery is still good. I'm guessing those have a built-in charger that you can just leave it plugged in?
 
   / Battery Info #323  
As I recall, the life of a battery is mostly determined by the discharge/charge cycles it goes through, along with how well you maintain it.

"Age and Usage Patterns​

The age and usage patterns of a lead-acid battery can also impact its lifespan. The lifespan of a lead-acid battery is typically measured in cycles, which refers to one complete charge and discharge cycle.

The number of cycles a battery can endure depends on its quality, usage patterns, and maintenance. According to the search results, the average guaranteed lifespan of a basic lead-acid battery is around 1,500 cycles.

However, poor management, no monitoring, and a lack of both proactive and reactive maintenance can kill a battery in less than 18 months. With proper maintenance, a lead-acid battery can last between 5 to 15 years."

I recently acquired an old battery, never really used, but it sat discharged for a few years, the build date was in 2018! I put it on a battery recondition cycle a few times( says it gets rid of sulfation) and it now is holding a charge. One of these days, I will put it in my van to see if it will perform well or it is just a surface charge.
Update on that old (2018) battery, I put it in my van after my old AGM died (build date 2016). That 2018 battery is working like a champ even in the cold we are having here, 16 degrees this morning
 
   / Battery Info #324  
The old fashioned big rolling has-its-own-battery units can charge or start... assuming their battery is still good. I'm guessing those have a built-in charger that you can just leave it plugged in?
Most of the old-fashioned big ones will just keep on trying to charge after the battery is full. As this can boil off electrolyte, they generally should not be left connected continuously.

The older big "dumb" chargers do have a couple of advantages: the high charge rates (such as 25-50 amps) can help start a vehicle with a dead battery quickly, and they will try to charge just about anything. I've not really followed whether the newer big rolling chargers have incorporated "smart" features in their design.

If you want to leave it connected long-term, it's best to make sure you have a good quality smart charger that regularly assesses battery condition and charges accordingly. It's also important to make sure they are maintaining the proper voltage when left connected. I've run across a couple of cheap, off-brand chargers that were significantly over or under the recommended voltage.
 
   / Battery Info #325  
The battery on my generator died and I got a free
new battery from O'reilly's Auto that saved me
over $300+

willy
I’m liking oriley more to. Seem to have really good folks working there. But Autozone has more where I am. I’m very glad they helped you sir
 
   / Battery Info #326  
I’m liking oriley more to. Seem to have really good folks working there. But Autozone has more where I am. I’m very glad they helped you sir
I had never been in an O'reilly's Auto until recently when I couldn't find the battery size I needed. O'reilly's had it in stock. With free installation

I watched as the tech, an old character, did an excellent professional job. At one point he went into the store and got a unique specialized small bolt for the cable clamp to replace a corroded one, something I would have wasted half a day to locate and buy.

Recommended! I'll do more business with them. O'reilly's seems like a cleaner and more friendly clone of Autozone or NAPA. (I realize NAPA has a broader stock of serious stuff.)
 
   / Battery Info #327  
I had never been in an O'reilly's Auto until recently when I couldn't find the battery size I needed. O'reilly's had it in stock. With free installation

I watched as the tech, an old character, did an excellent professional job. At one point he went into the store and got a unique specialized small bolt for the cable clamp to replace a corroded one, something I would have wasted half a day to locate and buy.

Recommended! I'll do more business with them. O'reilly's seems like a cleaner and more friendly clone of Autozone or NAPA. (I realize NAPA has a broader stock of serious stuff.)
NAPA is only kind of a chain; some are company-owned, but most are independent shops that are part of the larger buying cooperative.
This is to say, O'Reilly's is likely more similar store-to-store than any given NAPA.
We have a local chain in this area which is NAPA and they're fantastic stores; I suspect people visit O'R & Autozone just because they're used to them from elsewhere.
 
   / Battery Info #329  
I thought NAPA was more expensive for common retail stuff, unless you have a commercial account. ???
Probably depends on the shop.
Store here seems pretty reasonable; I'd shop there more if I actually left my land more often, but instead I usually buy on-line because getting it in 2 days is a lot sooner than I'll be going to town most likely.
 
   / Battery Info #331  
Most of the old-fashioned big ones will just keep on trying to charge after the battery is full. As this can boil off electrolyte, they generally should not be left connected continuously.

The older big "dumb" chargers do have a couple of advantages: the high charge rates (such as 25-50 amps) can help start a vehicle with a dead battery quickly, and they will try to charge just about anything. I've not really followed whether the newer big rolling chargers have incorporated "smart" features in their design.

If you want to leave it connected long-term, it's best to make sure you have a good quality smart charger that regularly assesses battery condition and charges accordingly. It's also important to make sure they are maintaining the proper voltage when left connected. I've run across a couple of cheap, off-brand chargers that were significantly over or under the recommended voltage.
Most of the rolling ones are "smart" electronically controlled ones. I had to look hard for my dumb one. It has the knob for the couple 12v or single 6v range & another knob that is the mechanical timer. You have to calculate how long it will run before it starts boiling the battery. For that reason I use one of my 2 smart chargers or couple of trickle maintainers for most stuff. The big unit gets used for starting stuff right now (which my 70@ smart charger usually did fine after a minute or 3) or for electronics projects like testing a starter or running a 12v motor or something. I can't be bothered to calculate the timer stuff properly.

Most people should just get a modern smart charger, unless you plan on using it for other non battery charging things. No difference in price.
 
   / Battery Info #332  
Pretty good deal on 1200 amp booster;


Not sure how long it'll last!
 
   / Battery Info #333  
Battery holding up OK Eddie? I'm thinking of going to Ever start MAXX Platinum AGM over the NAPA for my next battery replacement in my car.
 
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#334  
The battery is working great. When I got my tractor in June of 2022, it started just fine, except when it was super cold out. Every winter, since getting it, I had to jump it to get it to start when temps where below freezing. I assumed it didn't have a cold starting system, or something like that since I'm in Texas.

Over the weekend, with temps in the 20's, it fired right up!!!! I wasn't sure what to expect, but with it starting up so quickly in the cold weather, I think the original factory battery was iffy from the beginning.

For me, being able to start my tractor in the cold was a big deal. I'm very impressed with the battery so far. I guess the next thing to do is to see how long it lasts.
 
   / Battery Info #335  
My Ram batteries just took a dump.
Both were date stamped “5/22”.

So I got 2 years & 7 months from them. Took them back to where I bought them and got a lot of “dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullschidt” mumbo jumbo that basically said, I get no pro rated money back.
These were DEKA batteries.

So I got 2 more, but he gave me mechanics pricing on them, about $160 each. That’s not bad for my area for 850CCA Dekas.
 
   / Battery Info #336  
Walmart H7's with 850cca are $180 and have a 4 yr replacement warranty! Put a set in the RAM 3500 a few months back.

The last set was Champions with a 3 yr warranty and lasted just over 5 yrs.

Use a smart 4 amp charger when the truck will sit more than a day or so. As you know, there's a lot of draw in these trucks when they are sitting let alone when you go to start them and it's in the teens/twenties in the am!

Dekas used to carry a good name. Seems it's all hit or miss these days!
 
   / Battery Info #337  
Walmart H7's with 850cca are $180 and have a 4 yr replacement warranty! Put a set in the RAM 3500 a few months back.

The last set was Champions with a 3 yr warranty and lasted just over 5 yrs.

Use a smart 4 amp charger when the truck will sit more than a day or so. As you know, there's a lot of draw in these trucks when they are sitting let alone when you go to start them and it's in the teens/twenties in the am!

Dekas used to carry a good name. Seems it's all hit or miss these days!
Pro-rated? Or full replacement?
 
   / Battery Info #338  
Full replacement!
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   / Battery Info #339  
The battery is working great. When I got my tractor in June of 2022, it started just fine, except when it was super cold out. Every winter, since getting it, I had to jump it to get it to start when temps where below freezing. I assumed it didn't have a cold starting system, or something like that since I'm in Texas.

Over the weekend, with temps in the 20's, it fired right up!!!! I wasn't sure what to expect, but with it starting up so quickly in the cold weather, I think the original factory battery was iffy from the beginning.

For me, being able to start my tractor in the cold was a big deal. I'm very impressed with the battery so far. I guess the next thing to do is to see how long it lasts.
Always nice to be pleased when you get somewhat of a good deal. I think keep everything clean and add a little charge during off seasons and you will be surprised how long it works for you.
 

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