4707

[LouNY]

My theory on the jerky clutch. The clutch pedal is just a sensor, just like the forward and reverse shifter(if you pull up on it you can slowly release it like the pedal). The clutch is completely controlled electronically by solenoids. The reverse lever and the clutch pedal just sends a signal to it. Problem is the solenoids only work at their speed. So when you push clutch in to do something like hooking up a bucket or pallet..or whatever, when you go to re-engage it you believe the clutch pedal level is where the clutch is, but every time you push in the pedal the solenoids completely disengage the clutch but as you re-engage slowly the solenoids are catching up to you but you feel you need to let more clutch out, by the time it catches up to you its catching to quick. Clutch by wire is stupid.

It is a very common method on newer large tractors. Some are easily adjusted by the operator, some require the dealers computer. Almost all of these are multi plate wet clutches. Some can handle the temperature change of the hytran fluids better then others.

 

[Hersheyfarm]

It is a very common method on newer large tractors. Some are easily adjusted by the operator, some require the dealers computer. Almost all of these are multi plate wet clutches. Some can handle the temperature change of the hytran fluids better then others.

Yea, I’m sure. But these are slow solenoids imo. If your quickly but delicately pulling up to do something with the loader a traditional clutch will release and engage quickly with pedal movement. These are restricted by the slow solenoids and expecting a traditional clutch.

 

[daugen]

I'm curious that now that this model has been out for at least five years, I bought an early loaded one,
have they made improvements or changes?
and I wonder how much the price has gone up. I thought I got a good deal for a loaded cab moon roof model with loader for 50k.
wondering if that has crept up 10k since.

when I bought mine a comparable JD was 20k more, granted a very nice 5R series.
Pretty sure I would have been happy with either, but it was either a used tractor or a new
cutting edge one I could afford, with a local dealer warranty.

I always figured my lack of finesse with the electronic clutch was due to operator error.
I had three other tractors with hydro or plain manual. Driving a Grand series Kubota with all their electronic
hydro aids is a real spoiler. I simply got in that and drove. The Massey I had to figure out.

 

[EddieWalker]

I was curious on price for a new 4707 too, so I looked on TractorHouse.com to see what they were listed for. This seems to be the best price at $65,000

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One place has one listed for $74,000 I'm not sure if there is $10,000 worth of upgrades, I just looked quickly at the numbers.

 

[Wobblin-Goblin]

Bought my '21 exactly four years ago this month. It has the FL loader with self-leveling and the deluxe cab with air ride seat. Got it for just over $61k delivered.

Last month I saw essentially the same thing (less self-leveling) for $71k before tax.

 

[Wobblin-Goblin]

Used the 4707 to unload cages of concrete panels the other day.

 

[Bighat!]

Four years and a little over 200 hours later, my '21 4707 still has a jerky clutch, but I mitigate it by not using it very much and only when necessary. As a previous poster said, just use the reverser and the button on the shifter.

As far as the 3pt issue, my tractor initially had it pretty bad. The dealer sent a tech out a couple times and could not fix it, so they eventually loaded it up and took back to their shop for a week or so and when I got it back, it worked quite a bit better. Not perfect, but almost.

The hood still won't stay up when lifted, but I guess it's going to be that way as long as I own the tractor.

Having said all that, this is the best tractor I've ever owned or operated and I look forward to every time I hop in it.

Just read your post. The clutch problem sucks. I bought a used 4710 that did the samething. I didn't notice it on the lot because it didn't happen until it warmed up. Anyway, I spoke with a youtuber that got his fixed and the Agco rep in my area. They both said, get a software update and recalibrate the trans and the clutch. My dealer took care of the on this and fixed it because I'd just purchase the tractor not to long ago. Mine clutch is smooth as silk now. Hope this helps you out.

 

[Hersheyfarm]

Just read your post. The clutch problem sucks. I bought a used 4710 that did the samething. I didn't notice it on the lot because it didn't happen until it warmed up. Anyway, I spoke with a youtuber that got his fixed and the Agco rep in my area. They both said, get a software update and recalibrate the trans and the clutch. My dealer took care of the on this and fixed it because I'd just purchase the tractor not to long ago. Mine clutch is smooth as silk now. Hope this helps you out.

How many hours on your “smooth” clutch now?

 

[Bighat!]

How many hours on your “smooth” clutch now?

Not enough for me to turn cartwheels. Some people would've lived with it but I've operated a lot of equipment during my time on earth and I'm old, picky and few other choice words. Mine had just a little grab when trying to hook up to an implement. Just enough to make it where I have to hold the brake a little when I got about and inch or so away from connecting.
I did speak to a you tuber "DLH Farms" that got his fixed the same way and it's been a few years and he said it fixed it. I can only hope I'm as lucky.

 

[Wobblin-Goblin]

Just read your post. The clutch problem sucks. I bought a used 4710 that did the samething. I didn't notice it on the lot because it didn't happen until it warmed up. Anyway, I spoke with a youtuber that got his fixed and the Agco rep in my area. They both said, get a software update and recalibrate the trans and the clutch. My dealer took care of the on this and fixed it because I'd just purchase the tractor not to long ago. Mine clutch is smooth as silk now. Hope this helps you out.

That's good to hear. I'm not going to bother with talking to anyone about it, as it's an issue I can sort work around, but I'm glad there is a fix.