4044m NIGHTMARE!

[Industrial Toys]

Never say never on the Deere. Sometimes best the Devil you know.

 

[rademamj1]

Ha! You probably would avoid this one anyway.. being a non-Deere owner..

Actually, I am strongly considering getting a JD 1025R for landscape use around the property. My Kioti tractor does everything I need but can leave some mighty terrible ruts on my property at times.

 

[Dutch445]

it sounds like you finally struck a nerve and they found a way to get that mysterious tool to fix the seal.... hmm,, a special tool to drive in a seal... sounds real special...

anyway,, good luck and i'm sure you will keep us posted on the progress.


(unfortunately manufacturers are forcing dealerships to jump thru hoops to get this sort of stuff fixed, so consumers are the losers in the new age of tech support)

good luck, and let us know

Well today they came and got the 4044m. Dealership called this afternoon and said the tool was next day air shipped from some big dealer in the midwest. Said they will start working on it monday. Now we will see how long it takes to repair it. This will be my only deere i ever buy again!

 

[rademamj1]

Maybe it was the JD seal extractor tool that was so special. My Dad used to make kitchen forks into a tool to pull out the old axle seals on cars and trucks. Would pop them out in 30 seconds or less per wheel.

 

[BRMyers]

Sounds like you are finally making some progress. It will be interesting to see how long it takes for the repair.

 

[bigweights]

Tractor is still at dealership. Now there telling me its not covered under warranty!!!! The dealer said it was covered under powertrain warranty!! The NIGHTMARE Continues!!!

 

[ovrszd]

I would have thought, any such cavity has vents to allow for pressure changes. That makes not a lick of sense.

Makes perfect sense. Axle seals are sensitive to fluid level. Very sensitive.

 

[ovrszd]

I don't think any color would warranty a leaking seal at 3yrs/400hrs.

I'll ask the unanswered question. Was the fluid level properly checked?

No logical reason for both seals to start leaking at the same time unless caused by a sudden change.

If the delay was costing me income I would have ran it and daily checked fluid and add as necessary. The fluid level should be right at the bottom of the axle bearing.

 

[bigweights]

Tractor has been religiously maintained! It was always pressure washed, foam cannoned, and waxed every time it was used. Always did fluid checks and oil changes before scheduled maintenance before manual stated times. Always greased all fittings regularly. Never really did any kind of strenuous work with it.

 

[LouNY]

Pressure washed to get all the dirt off the axles????
One of the worst things for seals can be a pressure washer.

 

[bigweights]

What makes me mad is my dealership said the axle seal was under powertrain warranty before they picked it up. Now that they have the tractor in the shop its a different story.

 

[ovrszd]

Hope it works out for ya.

 

[bigweights]

Well dealer just called and said both rear axle shafts needs to be replaced because there is grooving in the axle shaft

 

[bigweights]

Do you think this could be an over torqueing issue when it was at the factory?

 

[ovrszd]

No.

Seems to be a compatibility issue between axle material and seal material. No way the proper seal could wear a groove in a steel axle in 400 hours.

 

[Industrial Toys]

Those axles would have been butter soft and not able to support the weight of the tractor. If it had constant contact with some very abrasive material, maybe. But that probaably would have destroyed the seal long before the shaft.

Is it possible for the plastic of the seal to desintegrate and only the sping (in some oil seals) to be contacting the shaft? That might create a very slight grove. As it was leaking, that would even lessen any possible damage though.

 

[bigweights]

I think next tractor will be a yanmar yt359c. They have a 10yr 3000hr powertrain warranty, that's saying something about there product!

 

[Industrial Toys]

YANMAR is number one in my books. But you can have all the warranty in the world and it's worthless unless it's honoured and applied effectively.

 

[bigweights]

Like this tool they been looking for they are blaming it on the pandemic. Its not like the 4 series is a brand new model tractor, its been around since 2014. No reason not to have all the tools and parts to make a repair!

 

[ruffdog]

Most soaps are very alkaline and when used with a pressure washer, they can be forced into the seals. That can lead to corrosion in the seal/bearing area. If this repair is not warranty, the old parts are yours. I'm sure we all would be interested to see pictures of the "worn" parts.