2 post or 4 post vehicle lift ideas

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[Too many Kubotas]

This would be the lift I would purchase. To change a tire very
easy to jack up one side at a time and no trouble to open a door
and don't have to mess with placing a padded arm to life vehicle
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willy

That one looks a lot like the one I have. It was quite affordable.

Said not to have it outdoors, but that's where mine's been for about seven years now. Of course, I do keep the motor and fluid container covered, not to get rain and snow in the motor, and to keep the UV from ruining the plastic container.

 

[Too many Kubotas]

Lifting a vehicle on a drive on hoist is not as easy as you might think due to placement issues. And you will need to jack up 2 wheels at once (2 jacks) if you are going to rotate tires. You can do it but much easier on a 2 post lift.

As far as I can tell, it's only a matter of getting all four tires on the runners. Which should be quite easy.

Not sure why anyone would use a 4-post for tire rotations, though. For that task I prefer using regular jacks, with the vehicle on the floor.

Of course, on a vehicle with live axles it could be done by using the near mandatory tall 2-post stands and do one side or axle at a time.

 

[Rockbadchild]

As far as I can tell, it's only a matter of getting all four tires on the runners. Which should be quite easy.

Not sure why anyone would use a 4-post for tire rotations, though. For that task I prefer using regular jacks, with the vehicle on the floor.

Of course, on a vehicle with live axles it could be done by using the near mandatory tall 2-post stands and do one side or axle at a time.

The only think is you don't see the runners while driving on especially in a truck, the up ramp make you loose all line of site, it's not hard by any means but it can be scary at first, its best to have a spotter the first few time someone dose it or really taken your time.

 

[Too many Kubotas]

Maybe it's many years of four wheeling that makes me confident in driving up on something that's five inches tall, in a straight line.

If approaching the lift in a reasonably straight fashion, once the mirrors are at equal distances between the first two posts it'd almost be hard to screw it up, I think.

And it's obvious when the rear tires have made it up on the runners, which is as far as the vehicle needs to go. Although, I generally center the vehicles, just because.

 

[Peter 315]

The only think is you don't see the runners while driving on especially in a truck, the up ramp make you loose all line of site, it's not hard by any means but it can be scary at first, its best to have a spotter the first few time someone dose it or really taken your time.

You can put a plastic mirror sheet on the wall and see the ramps and tires..

 

[Rockbadchild]

Maybe it's many years of four wheeling that makes me confident in driving up on something that's five inches tall, in a straight line.

If approaching the lift in a reasonably straight fashion, once the mirrors are at equal distances between the first two posts it'd almost be hard to screw it up, I think.

And it's obvious when the rear tires have made it up on the runners, which is as far as the vehicle needs to go. Although, I generally center the vehicles, just because.

for sure, just saying it can be for some, I haven't personally driven a vehicle on 4 post lift since I was 16 but I remember being sketch out by it back then especially the first few times and of course their is these video of idiots falling down from some.

 

[Too many Kubotas]

Or, since people seem to really like backup cameras, back the vehicle up on the lift.

Just don't forget to make sure that the mirrors will clear the posts.

 

[Too many Kubotas]

for sure, just saying it can be for some, I haven't personally driven a vehicle on 4 post lift since I was 16 but I remember being sketch out by it back then especially the first few times and of course their is these video of idiots falling down from some.

I can't remember if it was with the JD Gator or the Daihatsu HiJet, but I did drive off one runner with one wheel in one of them.

That can happen when the vehicle is so narrow that only about two inches of tire is on the runners.

So I backed up and recentered. Done.

 

[Moak]

The bathroom would depend on whether you are going to work on other people's car and if you want them using the same bathroom or if you would rather have half a bathroom for them and a larger one for you with a shower. Now as far as the lift if you are only looking to have one lift I would go 4post. The disadvantage with the two posts is getting in and out of the vehicle/ opening the door as the post is in the way sometimes you need to drive the car on a 2x6 to pre-lift the car depending on the ground clearance to fit the lift point underneath ... the main disadvantage of the 4 posts is to work on the wheels assembly you need to jack the vehicle independently but you can get a roller jack or even two rollers. Depending on if you are only working on a car & truck.
I am going with a 4-post because I want to be able to work on my car, truck, ATV, and even my Tractor and I don't believe you will be able to lift a tractor with a two-post.

 

[EddieE]

Sorry I haven't combed through the entire thread. Had a MaxJax two post in my old shop because of limited ceiling height. I was in my 40's then so I didn't like positioning the arms, but no problem. Getting out of the doors in a two-door (Cuda) was an acrobatic chore. Those little lifts are fine if you use a rolling seat, we've pulled engines and replaced 4 speeds with no problem.

If you have the resources, I'd suggest a 4 post with rolling hydraulic jacks. I have an Atlas 409 four-post which I think is discontinued, but its extra wide for your dually and extra high with rolling jacks. I can park an Equinox under it and a Ram 2500 crew cab regular bed on it with a 13-foot ceiling height. I also have an old Atlas 408 four post but its just wide and long enough for a car (Charger). On that one I have to take the ramps off to get another car under it. In the shop we have a newer Bendpak extra high and extra wide lift. That one we've NEVER used for cars/trucks because Bendpak offers a diamond plate filler that makes it a huge height-adjustable workbench. Never intended it that way, but you will love it if you work on large heavy items. Has a tendency to collect junk though...

If you have single entry doors, I strongly suggest getting a lift with an inside-the-post clearance that is wider than your doors. That way you can't hit the posts and your mirrors at the door framing become your guide. All things considered get the highest/widest lift you need. However, if you're not going to put more than 9,000 pounds on it, save your money for other shop tools. Besides, like trucks, your buddy has a larger one that he will lend you (occasionally).

 

[EddieE]

Here's the BendPak aluminum deck.

 

[martyk]

With all the different vehicles you want to use a lift for, shouldn't you be looking for one with adjustable ramp width? Mine was made in 1934, brand name Walker and came with two full length I beams. Each end had a slide attachment that caught the straight axles of the cars of that era. I made two full length ramps to accommodate new vehicles and upgraded the hoist motor and cables. Not as useable as a new one but works great for storing our two street rods. The idea of using the rollers under the lift seems like a good idea looking at your shop design.

 

[truckdiagnostics]

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[woody]

As far as I can tell, it's only a matter of getting all four tires on the runners. Which should be quite easy.

Not sure why anyone would use a 4-post for tire rotations, though. For that task I prefer using regular jacks, with the vehicle on the floor.

Of course, on a vehicle with live axles it could be done by using the near mandatory tall 2-post stands and do one side or axle at a time.

I use my four post for tire rotation a lot, let me explain once the vehicle is on the lift I raise it up to about chest level position my air jack so as to raise one side with one jack then I lower the lift to about waist level remove lugs now if I am working by myself I have a cart I roll one wheel on and roll it around keeping it at waist level, I grab the other wheel move it and then the wheel on the cart. If someone is there to help they grab a wheel and we pass each other as we carry the wheel to the other position. Now notice in this process I have not bent over or gotten down on my knees not one time and I keep my back straight. At 65 years young with a bad back and knees that is important.

 

[Williy]

With a two post life you have to be cafeful with GM vehicles as a
camero or firebird will bend in the middle and you can't open or
shut the doors Actually you can watch them bend if the doors are
open

willy

 

[JimBinMI]

I decided on a two post, it's an Advantage Lift AL-SC10 for $3,995 right now they are on sale for $2,995. It is made in China to specs developed in the USA. It has been a very good lift, seems quality with thick steel. I have used it for vehicles and my golf cart, side by side, tractors. I bought an attachment from JMC Equipment for the golf cart that works for tractors, side by side, zero turn, etc. It is

AMGO Hydraulics 20805 Golf lift accessories SKU: AH-20805.​

With this accessory I can easily and safely stand under golf cart, zero turns, tractors, side by side to change oil, remove and sharpen blades, clean under deck, etc.

 

[sequoyah101]

I searched the forums using the search function, and could not find what I was looking for. So, here goes. ADMINS, if this is the wrong forum for this topic, apologies. Let me know if it needs to move.

Ok, so... I'm recently retired from a very long 36 year career in the US Army. I bought property in South Carolina, and recently moved into my forever home. We just broke ground for my workshop, and here is my rough floor plan. I want a vehicle lift to work on my dually, my Jeep, my UTV, etc. but I can't decide on either a 2 post or a 4 post. I have read the pro's and con's of each, and still can't make up my mind.

My brother is a 30 year heavy diesel mechanic, and has a 2 post lift at his house. He has told me the differences, and his opinion on the matter. I've never had a lift before, but I know it is a must have for my new shop.

What are your thoughts, from those who have lifts. Also, which brand do you recommend?

My shop will be 40' wide, by 60' deep. I will have three 12x12 roll up doors with aprons, situated as shown in the diagram. I'm adding drains as well. The 14' over hang will have the first 20' finished off, and will be my office. There will be a full bathroom (toilet, sink and shower) in the office area.

Shop will be insulated, and wired with both 110v and 220v.

Looking forward to your insight. Much appreciated.

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Doors on the side are best to me. I have one barn with end doors and one with side doors. Unless you just want to see outside the end door on the end with the side door and lift will be more trouble than benefit. You'll want that wall for tools and such with your work benches along the long inside wall. The other end door would be a waste for me. I'd put it in the side wall. You asked.

I have never trusted two post lifts since the day I drove up to the tire shop just in time to see a new pickup fall off and domino the whole shop. Operator error but still it fell. Access is better but there are things I value more. If I did put in a two post lift it would have deep drilled footings with plenty of rebar cage in them. As and engineer I've determined the overturning moment with a vehicle like my Ram diesel and didn't like the numbers, I know the bottom plates are designed for the bending and other forces but I still don't trust them, not with me under it all.

 

[sequoyah101]

I searched the forums using the search function, and could not find what I was looking for. So, here goes. ADMINS, if this is the wrong forum for this topic, apologies. Let me know if it needs to move.

Ok, so... I'm recently retired from a very long 36 year career in the US Army. I bought property in South Carolina, and recently moved into my forever home. We just broke ground for my workshop, and here is my rough floor plan. I want a vehicle lift to work on my dually, my Jeep, my UTV, etc. but I can't decide on either a 2 post or a 4 post. I have read the pro's and con's of each, and still can't make up my mind.

My brother is a 30 year heavy diesel mechanic, and has a 2 post lift at his house. He has told me the differences, and his opinion on the matter. I've never had a lift before, but I know it is a must have for my new shop.

What are your thoughts, from those who have lifts. Also, which brand do you recommend?

My shop will be 40' wide, by 60' deep. I will have three 12x12 roll up doors with aprons, situated as shown in the diagram. I'm adding drains as well. The 14' over hang will have the first 20' finished off, and will be my office. There will be a full bathroom (toilet, sink and shower) in the office area.

Shop will be insulated, and wired with both 110v and 220v.

Looking forward to your insight. Much appreciated.

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What about a high capacity mid-rise scissor lift? it is portable, you can build a welding table for it when not lifting cars, all four wheels are suspended so you can do brake work and tire rotation, the front is open to access the bottom of the engine. Yes, the tracks or rails do restrict access but it should be stable.

My only reservation for all lifts is the safety latch. I saw some reviews of scissor lifts with the lock track welds broken. Not comforting at all!