ford 4500

just got a ford 4500 diesel backhoe. wanting to change oil to start i don't know what oil they were running in it. i believe it may have been regular 10-40w conventional oil. should i stick to that or should i put in something like shell rotella or mobile delvac?

Hi all! new here. Wondering if anyone knows much about this machine? I "think" it is a 1969 4500 Ford with an EMCO/ELWOOD 4x4/4 wheel hydraulic steer conversion. This was my great uncles, from paperwork found in his shop, he bought it in the 70's and used it with his concrete business until he...

At wits end here! I have a mid 1980's Koehring SkyTrak 5025 telehandler made on a Ford 4500 or similar chassis with the 4x4 power reversing transmission. It blew out the pump, converter, modulator valve and the clutch sump housing has a crack where the retainer holding the clutch piston and...

Today my injector pump started leaking pretty bad. I’ll have to clean it up to try see where it is coming from. It is dripping pretty good so…replace or try a rebuild kit? You’ll have to excuse the dirty tractor. It’s new to me. Ran it four hours before it started leaking. Does anyone know the...

ford 4500 ind industrial is it vintage ? If so I’m prehistoric! Just want to know which forum for discussion?

I've got a ford 4500 with a power steering pump that's disappearing all the fluid out after a few hours. If you are sitting innthe tractor it's the front left side, it has it'd own fill cap. This is a 3 cylinder diesel. The power steering works great until all the fluid is gone. I don't see...

Question, what do you guys think of aftermarket wiring harnesses for a Ford 4500. Steiner wants $500 aftermarket is 90 I’m tempted opinions anyone anyone. TIA.

Trying to take side panels off around fuel tank to inspect all of harness in that area does fuel tank have to be removed?.

OK folks I am officially the proud owner of a Ford 4500 picked it up for two grand after parts paying a mechanic to help me get it started and he also had a big ass truck and trailer to help me get it home a new starter and solenoid. I’m into it for three grand, I will send some pictures. You...

I've got a 4500 industrial with a flat and mangled rear 16.9-28. There's a set of decent used 16.9-30s close to me for really reasonable price. I don't get tire sizing that well but is it possible to mount these on the same wheels? This is just a Farm backhoe for the occasional project. Which I...

All of the places selling manuals. Is this copyrighted materials with a portion going to the original writers…? Or is this just a bunch of people that have collected and scanned them over time and are just selling them? Reason I ask is that if these are copyrighted materials I guess I will buy...

Its me again.....I was trying to replace the brake road seals and this happened (see attached photos) when I went to remove that rod nut that's fitted into that clevis It got tight and snapped. I suppose the last guy cross threaded it or it wasn't supposed to come off. I'm not sure how else I...

I have a ford 4500 with a 4 speed power reversing transmission. It has a torque converter instead of a clutch. The numbers (as best I can make out) by the starter are D 5011F OD10B G268477 On the side of the tranny 1211 69 43101 L The front transmission seal is leaking. Can anyone tell me the...

I need some guidance here, parts, possible troubleshooting. Hydraulic pump shaf snapped at pump casing, I believe there was a U-joint failure and this caused the shift to snap. That said, is it possible there was a blockage that could have caused the pump to fail like that? Any help would be...

I have a 1970s ford 4500 tlb and the power steering is very erratic. Sometimes ok sometimes manual. Looking for some advice on repair

Thought ether would at least kick over almost anything. Ran when I parked it last fall, had a tough winter here in Alaska, but now nothing no smoke, nothing. When I first tried it this spring with low battery, it did kick over with a shot of ether, but didn't run with diesel, but that's the...

I' going .020 over on this motor. I got a kit with pistons for it on ebay and the pistons look different. I know this doesn't mean they're not the right pistons especialy with it going 20 over. but I want to make sure before having it bored 20 over and putting it together just to find that it's...

Why would travel left go complete but travel right stops 10 degrees past center. If Movement is fast enough, the mast will swing past but the right cylinder stops retracting at the same 10 degree spot while left cylinder continues to expand and the chain goes slack on the right side of the...

I need the high pressure power steering hose for my 4500. When I look on ebay I can't find anything for 4500 so I look for 4000, which usually works. But the hose that comes up fits 2000, 3000, and a few others. I have a 3000 and the hose on it is not the same. My 4500 has the big cylinder down...

Considering a Ford 4500 backhoe tractor project that reportedly ran when parked but being outside water mostly likely entered the engine via the exhaust. The engine won't turn and the current elderly owner says he has been lubricating the cylinders but still can't get to break loose...

My 4500 is really hard to start when its cold {not warmed up}. It's like 60 here and it is really hard to start unless its warmed up. The intake heater is working but its still not enough. The starter is turning the motor at about 200 rpms. I'm not sure how fast it should be turning but I'm...

Can anyone tell me what this lever is for. I can't find anything on it. It pulls out from the casing and then you can move it down. Thanks for any help :) John

What type of fluid should I use in the power steering reservoir? Been using automotive power steering fluid and it bubbles out of the vent at the top of the reservoir until it's empty.

Will be needing to rebuild my hoe cylinders in the fairly near future and experiencing sticker shock when looking at the kit prices on eBay and Amazon. The ones for my old Case 530CK were literally one-sixth the cost of these a couple of years ago. I know these are larger cylinders but 6 times...

Hello- Lurked here and soaked up a lot on info already-thanks to all you guys who unselfishly share your experience and expertise with us noobs. Bought this beast last month knowing there was deferred maintenance to be done. So far have given the old gal a pretty good pressure washing...

can someone please tell me the correct torque specs for my wet brakes inner brake housing 3/4 nuts. my book says to torque them to 72-90 lb. ft. I torqued them to 25 first to set them, then went to 82 but stopped before I got there. It seemed that I may strip it, so I backed down to 72 with the...

Hello all, new member here.I have just been gifted a 4500 ford back hoe ,the backhoe cyls are leaking and the seals need to be replaced any idea where I may be able to source seals for it.The plate says I-9-484 and believe it says 455 on the hoe. I will be doing the repairs myself. Thanks in...

Hi, yea, it's an old tractor, but it still runs and digs great. just needs some new stuff, dang Ford anyway, only 46 years and something wears out. Tractor is essentially a 4500, 3 cyl diesel with the engine driven power steering pump, Ford calls it A Model D5011D, I need a new pressure in side...

I just reinstalled a resealed cav pump I rebuilt on a Ford 4500 tractor. Tractor started up and ran fine once the intial air was all out and injector lines were tight. I restarted the tractor several times and observed for leaks for 5-10 minutes of running. I noticed nothing unusual other...

I need to know what kind of tranny this is and more importantly whats inside. It's in a 4500, or at least thats what the frame is. As best I can tell its some sort of automatic. Heres a few pics. There is no clutch pedal or anywhere for one. It has a shifter on top but I'm not sure how many...

I rebuilt my CAV for my Ford 4500 with a kit and followed some pretty good YouTube videos for instructions. I have cranked the engine and bled lines for what seems like hours and all I can finally get is a dismal fuel squirt at injector lines and a small return flow into tank. There does not...

I have a 4500 that was froze up, and the starter was froze up too. It has a 3 cylinder diesel. I tore it down and replaced the rings, gaskets, etc. And I got the starter working but I'm not sure its working exactly right. Now it turns over and I get white smoke but I'm pretty sure its not...

The flow control or maybe control valve itself makes the main boom very jerky. The backhoe feels a little scary to me as a first time operator. I don't like the amount of play in the pins. Is it normal to have this amount of play?I see a bolt for tightening and removal... I'm going to tighten...

I bought this tractor with the motor froze up from sitting too long. Got the motor working but cant get the injector pump to pump at all. The injector lines are disconnected at the pump and nothing at all will come out, not a drop. The pump is pumping fuel out a crack in the return line between...

I'm trying to see if I need a starter or a solenoid, or possibly even neither. I'm not familiar with this type of starter. It has more wires then I'm used to. So I have the ground cable and the hot cable hooked up. I touch the red wire I marked B to the hot side of the battery and the...

Hi Folks, I'm getting ready to part out my Ford 4500 TLB due to an engine failure (water in the oil). Looking for help with the value of the 755 hoe which is in "good" condition with about $600 in new hoses that were just installed. If I can sell the hoe Ill part the rest of it, including the...

The Cessna pump in my 4500 blew its casing apart on the bottom. I pulled the pump and replaced it with the beefier superceded part. The new pump does not fit the old metal hydraulic line on the high pressure side. Is there a kit or an adapter block??? I dont want to fabricate if there is a...

Does anyone know if there is a vent somewhere for the rear end/ hydraulic sump on this tractor. I changed the brake rod boots the other day and noticed a sound similar to opening a soda bottle when I pulled the rubber boot off. Like it was a completely sealed system. I read a couple people...

My 50 year old Ford is worn but I still love it. Hydraulic pump is only putting out about 1450 psi. I would like to replace it but since the pumps have not been available from Ford for years I am forced to looks at the replacement that is available. Have read several places that the inlet and...

I replaced the radiator last year with a new aftermarket product that leaked right out of the box. I had the lower hose neck soldered locally, which worked for a year. The radiator is leaking again after having just completed a clutch job (wasn't leaking prior to the clutch job). When I replaced...

Bought a 1966 Ford 4500 Industrial ... no hoe on it, but has the FEL ... after flushing the system twice, my hydraulic fluid is finally not milky! Issue I'm having though is the controls are screeching ... plenty of power in the hydros but the screeching is annoying/concerning ... after warming...

Hey guys/gals! Bought a 1966 Ford 4500 Industrial ... no hoe on it, but has the FEL ... after flushing the system twice, my hydraulic fluid is finally not milky! Issue I'm having though is the control are screeching ... plenty of power in the hydros but the screeching is annoying/concerning ...

The flywheel on my Ford 4500 backhoe had excessive wear on the friction surface area from years of clutch use. Though only about .020" of material need to be removed to resurface the clutch disk friction area, approximately .200" of material had to be removed from the remaining perimeter surface...

I need some help figuring out what to do about the pressure plate and clutch installation on my 1973 Ford 4500 Industrial TLB without PTO. Engine is a 3 cylinder 201 diesel. It has a 6x4 manual trans with an 11" single clutch assembly. I took the flywheel to NAPA to have it turned, and when I...

Hi all I have a Ford 4500 that when it warms up after about 45 minutes it stops shifting when it cools down after night it will shift again please advise thanks

Hi everyone, Just after opinions on a transmission issue I am having with an old Ford 4500 industrial (loader/backhoe). It has the "Power Reversing Transmission" where you selct a gear and then operate via a foward/reverse lever on the dash - no clutch. From my understanding, the engine drives...

New to forum, have old ford 4500 back hoe I use on farm, have deal on another 4500 for parts machine, Tire question my machine currently 16.9 x 28 can I run 16.9 x 24 my manual shows both size as option and I assume 8 bolt rims should be interchangeable off parts machine, Much appreciated...

I recently bought a 1970 Ford 4500 with a blown engine. In the interest of time and since winter is right around the corner I'm looking for a remanufactured 3 cylinder diesel engine. It would be great if everyone could shout out their favorite reman engine supply. I would like to build a...

Hello to all. Not sure if this prob is specific to my rig or just general hydraulic question. Blew a hose on backhoe. 755 Everything was working fine at the time. Replaced 11 of 12 hoses but just gave up on 12th hose. No leaks. topped off fluid ran and topped off again. 10 gal fluid required...

My Ford 4500 diesel backhoe quit while I was using it. It was like it ran out of fuel but it didn't. There is no fuel getting to the injectors. I've tried everything to ensure there is no blockage in the fuel lines. I've changed the fuel filter and the internal filter in the inlet of the...

Hi guys. I hooked up the BH to the 4500. Running at 2000rpm I started digging. The trans is getting so hot after 15min I can't even touch the filter. It doesn't wanna move until it cools for a minute or 2. After it cools, everything is good and drives like it should. It has the Power reversing...

Was digging with older 4500 3-cylinder diesel backhoe and it just died. It was like it ran out of fuel. Tried to restart numerous times but it would just turn over but not start. I tried using ether and then it would start but die out once the ether was used up. Have changed the fuel filter and...

My 4500 diesel backhoe died yesterday. It was low on fuel but I just had a small hole I needed to dig. I was working on a hill went it just quit running. I immediately suspected the angle I was working on made it run out of fuel before it was really empty. I added more fuel but it will not keep...

My 71 Ford 4500 backhoe has transmission fluid leak from transmission/motor interface. Have tried Lucas oil stop leak to no avail. The leak is really bad after the machine is warmed up and the revs up when digging. Is my only option to separate the motor & tranny? Is this possible with no...

I have a problem I was trying to get my tractor running with ether I think I did some damage because coolent started leaking out of the radiator cap and then out of number 3 injector does any one have any idea if I cracked the head or maybe head gasket problem

Is it possible to pull start a tractor (Ford 4500) with a torque converter/power reversing transmission? The ring gear is almost smoked, I can't believe it's still turning over as it is. I know this is going to be an issue in the near future. I won't have the time to split it and take care of it...

Hello.... Looking for some help and guidance. I recently picked up a Ford 4500 TLB and it was working fine. No issues but now it makes a lot of noise raising and lowering front bucket. Now the front tilt moves by itself. If you set the bucket level and raise the bucket, the tilt will...

I have 2 Ford 4500 backhoes, one was a gas burner and one was a diesel. I had several issues with the gas engine and the Transmission/Rear end of the Diesel. So I decided to make one good backhoe from my two. They were a 1965 & 1971 models. After splitting both tractors I found that one had a...

I have a problem with my shuttle transmission engaging intermittently, tractor goes for a little while and then will stop. Might back up , might not. Reving the engine doesnt seem to help, I have changed the oil and filter. Any ideas would be appreciated.

My governor is no longer working. I tried adjusting throttle linkages per the manual and still will not maintain rpm under any load. Looking for some advise as to whether anyone has rebuilt one and what parts go bad? I could not find any rebuild kits online and parts look scarce and...

I'm at my wits end trying to figure out why my tractor will not go to full power. Here is some background> The tractor is a 1969 Ford 4500 backhoe with a 201 cu-in 3 cylinder gas engine with approximately 4700 hrs. I used the tractor last weekend to dig some stumps and I didn't think I was...

Hi, I'm a new member and just purchased a '71 Ford 4500 backhoe. It has a 3 cylinder diesel. Looks like the previous owner didn't keep up on the maintenance. I want to change all the fluids & filters. Need to know the oil specs for this machine. I have heard that the motor uses one type of oil...

After discovering a crack between two cylinders, we've stripped the block down. Right now, I have the crankshaft gear, the camshaft drive gear, and the camshaft gear still on the front end. The manual shows a special tool for removing the crankshaft gear, which Google is failing to find for...

We found a donor engine from a mid-70s Ford 555. I'm trying to figure out the easiest way to swap over the necessary parts. It looks like the oil pan is an integral part of the tractor. I can't see enough of the engine to determine if we can just unbolt it and lift it off, or we need to...

Hi all. Seen this o'l girl on CL yesterday, a 2hr ride later and shes home. It's a 1973/4 Ford 4500. I'm going to marry it with my BH and never take it off again. I'm going to do a complete fluid change and fix a few small leaks. The hr meter still works, theres about 2300 on it. After going...

I discovered that my 67 Ford 4500 3 cyl diesel has a cracked block between cylinders 2&3. Looking for a new block or engine. I found a site that lists a long block and a normal block, both for the 4500. What's the difference between these? If I'm replacing the engine, can I swap one for the...

Right now, everything important on it works. It's rusty, but strong. It needs a manifold heater - eBay to the rescue. My only other concerns are that some bushings need replaced on the boom (not sure of the correct terminology here) where the two sections meet, and it hasn't been greased in a...

Hi, I have a Ford 4500 Tractor Loader Backhoe and I was wondering what the feeling is about rear wheel weights on this machine. To me, it seems to be overkill to have the weights (on it when I purchased the rig) on the rear wheels when used with the backhoe, surely the ton/s of steel in the...

:confused: Hoping someone out there may be able to help because I am a little confused. Over the years I have rebuilt several cylinders on both the loader and the backhoe of my 4500. The crowd cylinder has been acting a little funny so I decided to tackle it in the last few days. Got it off...

Problem started with a clogged fuel strainer in the tank. I cleaned the strainer, replaced the fuel filter. It cranked and ran ok for a short time but now it want run above an idle even with the throttle wide open. Any help would be appreiated.

We have fuel all the way up to the injector pump. When cranking it the bleeder valve on the bottom of the pump sparays out. But when cracking the injectors individually we are not getting any diesel to what we believe is the #1 injector . What's the proper procedure to bleed the system?

I'm Not sure if this is the right place to post this or not, If not, please close This thread. I have no interest or benefit in this machine whatsoever, just passing the info in case someone needs a BH on the cheap. This is all i know from the 5 min. look over. Its a diesel, straight tin, no...

1. I can't shift it out of second gear. It does move forward and reverse but, I can't shift the gear box. 2. The loader goes up but, will not come down. I had the valves rebuilt. 3. The brakes are very low. Any suggestions are welcome, Thanks, Phil

We finally got a 1969 Ford 4500 tractor with torque converter running but: 1. I can't shift it out of second gear. It does move forward and reverse but, I can't shift the gear box. 2. The loader goes up but, will not come down. I had the valves rebuilt. 3. The brakes are very low. Any...

Hi Everyone I have a situation with my Ford 4500 backhoe. I went to turn it over the other day and I engaged the starter for a few seconds, gave it a break and when I turned the key, the starter wouldn稚 engage. Starter and Solenoid both check out, When I turn the key, I get a little...

Hi all, In the process of dismantling the backhoe section of my 4500 as the swing cylinder is pouring out fluid at the top. Parts in Australia, in the US from Ford/New Holland, and from Messicks are listed as no longer available so I am hoping the local hydraulic shop may be able to find...

Hi there, Okay, I think I know the answer and it equals $$$$ but going to ask just in case. I have a 4500 Loader/Backhoe that I have done a bit of work to and am quite happy with it overall for an old girl (1970). To date my use has been on level ground and mainly backhoe work. I have started...

Hi guys, recently purchased a Ford 4500 TLB and having a bit of trouble identifying the backhoe. Forums and manuals state it would be a 753 or 755, but reading about the appearance of the 755 (e.g. distance the dipper and lift rams are apart) would indicate mine is not a 755. The pictures I can...

I am looking to ID this to get some manuals and I can not find any Id tags on it, the only casting marks I have found are in photo attached. Thanks

Hi, I've been looking through the forums for a while now and finally have a good reason to start a thread. Any all help will be appreciated. I recently purchased a 1965 Ford 4500 for $1000 with the loader, I'm not sure of the loader model but its straight, tight with all original Ford pins, no...

On my Ford 4500 backhoe, when I activate the dipper lever the dipper does not move unless I feather it with the bucket lever. on the same token the bucket does not move unless it is feathered with the dipper lever. The plumbing appears to br correct. Anyone familiar with the control valve...

Hello all, I am new to posting but have been following TBN for months. My brother gave me a 72 Ford 4500 TLB 3 cyl diesel 4300 hrs showing after I cleaned all the dirt off, no tach cable. I do not know the history on it, neither does he but it has some issues. I do know it has not been run...

Runs really well. Doesn't leak or smoke at all. The only reason why I wanna sell it is cause of weight. I bought it for a project, for food plots and putting out hay for my cows. I since bought a D17 and a AC 4040 with a loader on it. So don't really need this one so wanna sell but wanna get...

I bought this tractor a little bit before Christmas this past year. When i bought it it needed a few things but fairly minor. The biggest thing was the head gasket but you fine folks helped me with a few of the ? i had getting it done. Well i got 90 % of te tractor the way i want it. Need my new...

just bought a new to me 4500tlb for my own use, joined this forum to help in learning my machine.:)

Hi guys, I finally finished my Transmission rebuild on the 4 speed Shuttle Shift, wow it's hard when you can only work on it for a week out of a month. works like a top giddy-up :p thanks!! herringchoker for all your help wouldn't been able to do it with out you What ended up happening is...

Im getting ready to replace the head gasket. Can anyone tell me how much to torque the bolts. I dont have a book and cant find one without ording it off Ebay which i plan to just wanna get this done by the end of the weekend. Thanks Dave

Please help. I have a Ford 4500 dont know the exact year but i need to replace a few things. 1 of them being a head gasket. It a gas tractor if that helps. The other thing I need to replace is the fuel shut off on the Tank. Im looking on Messick to try to figure out the parts i need but im more...

Looking for power steering pump overhaul kit or just front seal. Leaking power steering fluid into crankcase.

Hi to all, I am looking for an owners manual for a ford 4500 gas tractor for my father. Any suggestions on where one can be bought or downloaded? Thanks in advance.

i recently purchased a ford 4500 tractor with backhoe attachment. i replaced all of the hydraulic hoses due to them being wore out. where they attach to the pump there is two rows i'm assuming fluid out and fluid in. some of the hoses screwed directly into the pump and some of the had a nipple...

I have a ford 4500 work horse tough old tractor and I'm not a ford man. I've got four more that I would like to bury maybe make one a head stone. My question is on the 4500 ford Loader/backhoe what's exactly involved on changing the rear brake pads/disk/ not shour I've heard that they aren't wet...

I hope this is in the right area....back in April, David Wayne did the exact same job I am attempting! The "center pin" for the steering has so much slop, I need to know if you used the replacement pin from Ford , or some after market bushings and have the original pin turned down to fit the...

Just finished replacing all the bearings and cups in the transmission, also replaced second gear. I reinstalled the shafts and torque to spec, then spun the shaft with no load and it is sticking after one complete revolution, you need to give it a quick snap to free it up. I removed all shafts...

Hey I have a ford 4500 backhoe/loader and under the case dead center dead middle there is a square plate w 4 bolts and I have a steady drip I think it's hydro fluid....I was wondering if that is just an inspection plate or is a **** ton of fluid going to come out if I remove the plate ....this...

and why does one line run to the front of the intake(starting fuel spray?) and the other to the fuel tank neck.

I thought it was necessary to start a new thread, to hopefully get some input. started out just to replace the torque converter and pump. I found a tooth from one of the Gears on the bottom of the tranny while cleaning it, turned out to be 2nd gear, of course it was the bottom shaft... never...

Hi. I'm helping a buddy work on his Ford 4500 industrial tractor that wont move forward or reverse when warm. It will go about 1/4 mile cold but then stops. It has the forward/Reverse on the steering coloum, and 4 forward gears and 1 reverse gear. It uses a torque converter and hydraulic pump...

can anyone help me figure out how to add a remote hydraulic line to my 1971 ford 4500 diesel TLB. I'd like to install a hydraulic winch to the front.

can anyone help me figure out how to add a remote hydraulic line to my 1971 ford 4500 diesel TLB. I'd like to install a hydraulic winch to the front.

Hello, Recently got a 77' (I think) Ford 4500 backhoe good running condition. I went to add some lights to the cab, and come to find out that the cab itself was the positive (not the ground like I would suspect). So I traced the battery cables and the negative cable goes to the starter...

My oil level for my 3 point hitch dropped to where the 3 point hitch quit working. I added oil to the rear end but the lift still will not come up. How do you bleed this system. I have worked the control lever up and down but nothing happens.

I have a Ford 4500 Industrial and cannot find hydraulic hoses with ends that match. The ends are all male ends that attach to fittings on pipe. They are 3/4 and are not JICs. Any help appreciated. Need them for my backhoe outrigger. The only thing close is an engineering company that wants 70...

I'm looking at two very different machines I know but I can't decide one is a 1972 Ford 4500 with big hoe and a snow bucket, Hasn't run in like ten years. It has full heated cab and a beafy hydrolic thumb. Needs both front king pins and bushings and one or two of the pistons done over from what...

i have a tractor backhoe that will move up and down and to the right but not to the left and now its stuck to the right there is no oil leaking and when i move the lever to go left i hear something like air moving or like a low horn please help i need to get back to work thanks

Have got 120 acres that needs refenced for cattle. need to clear old fence line. Fence is about 30yrs old. Mostly brush needs removed. Found a 4500. guy wants 3500. Says it is in good shape. Have not seen it yet. I'm told it has manual tranny not shuttle. I would think this would be better than...

I have a 70's model 4500 tlb that was only using around 20% of it's power when I got it. I figured the clutch was going bad but could still get good use out the the backhoe. After changing the Transmission fluid I got a good increase in pushing power for a while but then a major loss. It will...

Hello - I have a Ford 4500 hoe and blew a hose. The space around the hoses on the distribution manifold is too tight to get wrenches on the nuts - just wondering if large flare nut wrenches are what is normally used to get at the hose fittings? Thanks, Robar

Does anyone know what Ford backhoe model fits on the Ford 4500 TLB's?

have a 75 ford backhoe that the glow plugs and generator are not working, bought a brand new $250 battery so i know it is not that. not sure if you can test the generator by the following procedure or not : start the tractor, disconnect the pos cable, if it stalls the generator is bad, if it...

Anyone here know where I can find some specs on the 4500 TLB? I looked on the web, found some real basic stuff, but it looks like I've talked my brother into getting the tractor disease and he's gonna pop for an older used one that's seen it's better days. Seems to run pretty good, but I...