Pick WinterDeere's next truck

[sd455dan]

Hay Dude beat me to it, but I've never lost a hood to rust!

Doors are a good start, but cab, bed and tailgate are all susceptible.

I need to find some time to get out and test drive some stuff, in the coming weeks. This is no emergency project, my truck is fine... but I do want to take care of this before end of summer. Rapidly progressing rust and failing bed tie downs are one thing, but I'm also due to put four new tires on this truck before next winter, and would rather put the $1k+ I'd put toward those into a new truck.

I think I'll check out the aluminum Fords and the latest from Dodge. I don't really see any good reason to add Chevy to the comparison, since I've never had a positive experience with that brand or their local dealers. I'm not a fan of any of the recent Fords I've been in, either... but have to admit the aluminum body is a factor I can't ignore, given I'm trading-in my second very low miles truck due to body rust.

GM really blew it on the auto transmissions by cheaping out on valve bodies and also engines with the recent poor crankshaft machining.
They really ticked off Allison as well. middle of summer and GM was to be barred from using Allison's name- unless on the HD line that actually are Allison transmissions.

Apparently GM has been able to make a new agreement.

I hope Allison forced some changes in the valve body and valve material specification on the newest trucks.

 

[Hay Dude]

GM really blew it on the auto transmissions by cheaping out on valve bodies and also engines with the recent poor crankshaft machining.
They really ticked off Allison as well. middle of summer and GM was to be barred from using Allison's name- unless on the HD line that actually are Allison transmissions.

Apparently GM has been able to make a new agreement.

I hope Allison forced some changes in the valve body and valve material specification on the newest trucks.

Slapping “Allison” badges on trucks that didn’t have Allisons in them for years is deceitful and pretty much unforgivable.
I was a big fan of their trucks, too.

 

[sd455dan]

Yeah and like the truck you posted , Pretty much a known fact that a used 2007 Chevy is likely to run longer without a problem than a 2026.

Interesting New 5.7 and 6.6 sixth gen. 400 and 475 HP (maybe)

 

[Jstpssng]

Pretty much a known fact that a used 2007 Chevy is likely to run longer without a problem than a 2026

Ah, but on paper the 2026 will give you .0246 miles/gallon better than the 07.

 

[sd455dan]

Ah, but on paper the 2026 will give you .0246 miles/gallon better than the 07.

Probably right before it spins a rod bearing or locks up, running that expensive 0W - 20 water thin oil.

I really Hope GM has a change of "Heart" and gets back to long lived "Heartbeat of America" and building solid, Reliable, long lived V8's...

RAM is a better company today since the return of Tim Kuniskis to lead the truck brand. Maybe GM needs a similar change.

 

[ruffdog]

Probably right before it spins a rod bearing or locks up, running that expensive 0W - 20 water thin oil.

The weird thing is the 6.2 L87 engines that are having that issue uses the exact same PN rod bearing as the 5.3 that isn't having the problem.

 

[ruffdog]

I wish these manufacturers would focus more on the consumer and product. The shareholders of Ford are not happy with the pay the top people are getting. The CEO gets $27M, Bill Ford gets $20.2M and others getting a bump worth $100M. I wonder what trucks they drive every day?

https://www.tipranks.com/news/ford-stock-nysef-sinks-as-farley-takes-home-27-5-million-payday

 

[deserteagle71]

I really Hope GM has a change of "Heart" and gets back to long lived "Heartbeat of America" and building solid, Reliable, long lived V8's...

Me, too. Put a lot of miles on GM vehicles years ago.

But they lost me back 15 years ago or so. At least in Nevada, GM corporate bean counters decided to shut down all their dealerships in small rural towns. The two dealerships in the nearest town to me - one sold Chevy, the other GMC/Buick/Cadillac - were forced to shut down. Nevada is a huge state but if you want to buy a GM vehicle in Nevada today you have three locations - the Reno area, the Las Vegas area, and the Elko area. It is 300 miles from Reno to Elko. It is 450 miles from Reno to Las Vegas. Why would someone in rural Nevada want to drive hours to a GM dealer, whether it is to buy or have service work done or take care of a recall?

But just about every small town has a Ford dealer, and many have Dodge dealerships also.

 

[Rustyiron]

Just an FYI, a guy at work had his GMC sprayed with Woolwax, and when he went to put airbags on it, everywhere he wiped off the Woolwax it took the paint right off, right down to the bare metal. User beware!

That makes me wonder about GM's paint.
It doesn't bother Toyota or Ford paint one bit?

 

[Bocephous]

The dealer we've dealt with a lot. I looked at one like that in the low $40Ks.
The F150 I have now has 300-six, 4x4, '93 with 206K miles has been great...just bolt on stuff, water pump, alt., brakes but nothing major.
Biggest thing I'd tow would be a 2 horse trailer, so the F250 would work.
I much prefer no carpet, vinyl bench, manual. Wish I could get no radio or screen. AC is OK.

What are your plans for that '93 with the 4.9L inline 6?

 

[Fuddyduddy1952]

What are your plans for that '93 with the 4.9L inline 6?

I just now took this picture from the throne . I keep it up mechanically but dents from throwing tree limbs in it . I guess I'd keep it as a farm truck. Everything works great on it.

 

[WinterDeere]

A squirrel just ate thru my truck’s return fuel line, last night or this morning. Second time inside two months. Repair cost is $600, IIRC.

See? This old truck is costing me money!

 

[bigtiller]

How about a John Deere pickup?
It won't fit in a parking garage but the cool factor when taking kids to school is very high.

 

[ruffdog]

How about a John Deere pickup?
It won't fit in a parking garage but the cool factor when taking kids to school is very high.

This is the Deere truck I would want.

 

[Runner]

A squirrel just ate thru my truck’s return fuel line, last night or this morning. Second time inside two months. Repair cost is $600, IIRC.

See? This old truck is costing me money!

Go ahead, tell the wife that, we'll back you up! Think she'll buy it?

 

[WinterDeere]

How about a John Deere pickup?

There actually was a JD pickup at some point. Those guys will slap their name on anything, if they can mark it up and make a few bucks on it. I can’t remember which brand was actually behind it.

But I have no brand loyalty, I’d not buy a pickup just for the sake of a brand name. The main reason I have Deere tractors is that our closest decent dealer for anything happens to be a Deere dealer.

Same with my Dodge vehicles, our closest good car dealer that I used to pass in my daily travels, happens to be a Dodge dealer.

 

[Jstpssng]

A squirrel just ate thru my truck’s return fuel line, last night or this morning. Second time inside two months. Repair cost is $600, IIRC.

See? This old truck is costing me money!

a .22 shell is cheaper.
Or a 110 Conibear.

 

[Hay Dude]

a .22 shell is cheaper.
Or a 110 Conibear.

Or a garage.
That’ll solve 50% of the rust, and make the truck look nicer for longer, and solve the squirrel problems, too.

 

[tacticalturnip]

The truck can't go in the garage, the tractor is in there...

 

[dieselscout80]

Interesting. But only 660 lb-ft of torque max - a far cry from the latest Cummins diesel @ over 1000 lb-ft of torque. And I'm wondering at what rpm that engine makes that 660 lb-ft of torque? All the article says is that "rated" speed is 3200 rpm. One of the things I love about my Cummins diesel is max torque is about 1600 rpm. The truck rarely gets to 2000 rpm.

It said torque rating was at 1800 rpm and maximum rpm is 3200.

One cool thing was it has integrated exhaust brakes into the engine valve train like diesel engines do.

I’m not sure how many people are using the 1000 pound feet of torque. I think the 660 pound feet would work okay for most people especially when looking at the market Cummins is targeting (delivery trucks, school buses etc).