New Kioti Please help! Many issues

[Midniteoyl]

No, my wr long came with a replacement grip for the joystice with 2 buttons. There was one pipe fitting that is eliminated in my install. Had to remove seat to get to it.

Did not know this. Last one I saw didnt.

 

[deezler]

Sorry to the OP, what a pain in the butt.

Your choice of a rinky dink dealership who doesn't even have a service department is the root of your trouble here. They obviously botched the 3rd function install and are deadheading your tractor hydraulics somewhere, which is robbing your power.

Sure, you might not be able to run high-range up a steep hill, but if you can drive on flat ground and move your loader around, the entire tractor hydraulic system is suffering badly. Why did you think it was ok to keep using the tractor in this condition? STOP USING IT UNTIL FIXED!

Folks, when buying new : VET YOUR DEALER. Demand to see the service shop and meet the staff. Ask questions.

But back to the OP - try not to get your clams all steamed by things taking a week at a time. This is normal. The mechanical issue here must be rectified, but be aware - it is going to take more weeks of downtime. Hang in there.

 

[MichiganIron]

If it came with the Joystick w/ the buttons, pretty sure it was the Kioti kit.

The valve is installed under the right step.

The KIOTI 3rd Function Valve for a CX2510 does not mount under the right step. The KIOTI Valve mounts to the RH Front Loader Bracket.
Hope this helps

 

[grsthegreat]

mine looks like this

 

[Mtsoxfan]

I do not know hydraulics, but wanted to chime in on the joystick. The buttons are for 3rd function, whatever it may be. Up/down, open/close etc.
dealer told me to install 3rd function, they sell a kit that attaches to joystick to run to hydraulics. Maybe it's just a Kioti brand of what aftermarkets sell. Doesn't sound like that dealer is too promising. Good luck. New Kioti here, only issue is with me getting used to it, and comparing to last tractor. Guess they don't all operate identically. I do miss the fancy seat that my NH had.

 

[part-time-Farmer-NC]

Hate you are having issues. I'm not a mechanic but installed my third function/diverter valve myself. My switch was different than the one shown above. Mine has a rocker switch. Sorry it was about 8-9 yrs ago so I am not 100% sure what I had to do. I followed the directions from WR and it looks good and so far has worked about 8-9 yrs without issues.

I also took out the detent for the rear remote. My FIL who was using it off and on accidently engaged it once. Removing the detent forces you to use the stick/handle to make it work. I am/was ok with that. I basically only used the rear remotes for my flail mower or post driver.

 

[Midniteoyl]

The KIOTI 3rd Function Valve for a CX2510 does not mount under the right step. The KIOTI Valve mounts to the RH Front Loader Bracket.
Hope this helps

Thanks.

 

[Midniteoyl]

mine looks like this

Hes, and mine, like like this post: https://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/threads/new-kioti-please-help-many-issues.651725/post-7382428
Which looks like the OEM 3rd function.

 

[grsthegreat]

Hate you are having issues. I'm not a mechanic but installed my third function/diverter valve myself. My switch was different than the one shown above. Mine has a rocker switch. Sorry it was about 8-9 yrs ago so I am not 100% sure what I had to do. I followed the directions from WR and it looks good and so far has worked about 8-9 yrs without issues.

I also took out the detent for the rear remote. My FIL who was using it off and on accidently engaged it once. Removing the detent forces you to use the stick/handle to make it work. I am/was ok with that. I basically only used the rear remotes for my flail mower or post driver.

I left 1 with detent, one without. I need the detent for wood splitter

 

[MichiganIron]

I left 1 with detent, one without. I need the detent for wood splitter

From everything you have described here, you have an aftermarket 3rd Function Kit on your tractor. Not necessarily a problem, but it sounds like you have a flow restriction in the hydraulic system. This could be due to the Power Beyond circuit not properly plumbed, or the valve not properly installed. Do not operate the tractor until the issue is resolved, or you could do serious damage to the hydraulic pump and HST Unit.

Also, make sure your Rear Remote is in the Neutral Position at all times. Having the Rear Remote actuated without a Open Center or Tandem Center valve in the remote circuit will also Dead Head the hydraulic system and cause serious damage.

 

[part-time-Farmer-NC]

I left 1 with detent, one without. I need the detent for wood splitter

Ah you have dual remotes then. I only have the one. WHen I ran the post driver, I used a rope to tie it back. THe post driver has it's own controls.

I always thought about a second remote, meaning I kinda wish I had one. Say for the hyd toplink and flail mower together would be nice. Not worth the hundreds of dollars to me though. Had I known about it when I bought it I would have gotten it I'm sure.

 

[kozal01]

Man, sorry to here the issues you are having but I agree with others, this sounds like a dealer issue. The CX is a stout little tractor and should not be giving you this trouble.

 

[Jaygyver]

Unfortunately unless you specifically asked for the Kioti 3rd function it may be a 3rd party one. Dealers will do it sometimes to save money, no big deal as most are as good as OEM. But you need to find out which it is to trace it out and trouble shoot.
On my LS I ordered OEM rear remotes and went 3rd party with the 3rd function. Was way easier than I thought it would be to install both myself. So you shouldn't have any problems confirming how they're hooked up when you find out which brand 3rd function you have.

As far as the "bandaid" hoses there is no issue keeping it there when not in use, it just makes it a pass through. If anything not a bad backup in case your button sticks like mine did. I lucked out and had my hyd bucket still attached and caught it in time so no damage. I still might get one to put on when I don't have the Hyd bucket connected in case something like that happens again. You already paid for the hose's so it would save you from plumbing a switch to power the solenoid on and off.

Like it's been mentioned call an out of town dealer and explain what's going on, just mention the model and just say it has a "dealer installed 3rd function" and see what they say. It may not even have anything to do with the 3rd function so let them figure it out. Worse case you can see if a family member or neighbor has a trailer or you can even rent a U-haul pickup and trailer just to get it done and over with. You may even have to rent a tractor while it's getting fixed.
It definitely sucks having to fart around with a new tractor but it does happen unfortunately but it hurts even more trying to find a dealer to actually be able to fix it.

 

[Jstpssng]

Gee, i guess the nearly 2000 hours i have on my trouble free unit must be a fluke.

I've never believed in coincidences, yet everybody I know who owns Kiotis have had good luck with them. The moon must have been right that day...

I understand the OP's frustration yet once he gets the kinks out and starts working it, all will be forgotten. That 2510 is on my short list for my next tractor... although it likely will have gears rather than fluid.