Natural gas?

[anomad]

Left the house this morning at 0800 to go to Asheville, got back around 3:30 after a longer lunch than I expected.

Are you off 40 or 421? (I go travel to Boone as well, but that's only a 90 minute drive LOL).

Jackson County

 

[Sigarms]

Jackson County

That is west LOL. Yadkin here.

 

[anomad]

IE.
Pilot flame type and when heating they were blasting very hot air into the living space, which is not ideal in my opinion.

I know we all have opinions and that's mine!

We had a lousy furnace like that back in Montana, super annoying! It would blast 900 degree air for 5 minutes and then shut off. Constantly adjusting the TV volume while you were trying to relax with Mama on a cold night. I installed a Rinnai (modern by back then 2003 standards) gas heater before the second winter in the living room. We kept the house much warmer, totally silent, and paid for itself in one winter's gas bill.

I had a pilot flame kitchen stove in Kansas (rental). No central air, just a swamp cooler. I couldn't figure out why the kitchen was always so dang hot. I had never seen an always burning pilot light at that point in my life.

Options are there for a reason. There is no one size fits all solution for anything.

 

[anomad]

That is west LOL. Yadkin here.

Still neighbors...

 

[jyoutz]

We had a lousy furnace like that back in Montana, super annoying! It would blast 900 degree air for 5 minutes and then shut off. Constantly adjusting the TV volume while you were trying to relax with Mama on a cold night. I installed a Rinnai (modern by back then 2003 standards) gas heater before the second winter in the living room. We kept the house much warmer, totally silent, and paid for itself in one winter's gas bill.

I had a pilot flame kitchen stove in Kansas (rental). No central air, just a swamp cooler. I couldn't figure out why the kitchen was always so dang hot. I had never seen an always burning pilot light at that point in my life.

Options are there for a reason. There is no one size fits all solution for anything.

There are no gas stoves sold with a pilot light nowadays. They are all electric spark.

 

[ultrarunner]

This is popular for off grid and comes with standing pilot.

HOTPOINT® 30" FREE-STANDING STANDARD CLEAN GAS RANGE WITH STANDING PILOT IGNITION SYSTEM​ RGB506PYAD​

 

[jyoutz]

This is popular for off grid and comes with standing pilot.

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HOTPOINT® 30" FREE-STANDING STANDARD CLEAN GAS RANGE WITH STANDING PILOT IGNITION SYSTEM​ RGB506PYAD​

Interesting. They don’t carry those in appliance stores; all electric igniters. Must be special order.

 

[Larry Caldwell]

Interesting. They don’t carry those in appliance stores; all electric igniters. Must be special order.

Some electric ignition gas ranges will not match light. If they will, a sparker will let you use the burners but not the oven.

 

[jyoutz]

Some electric ignition gas ranges will not match light. If they will, a sparker will let you use the burners but not the oven.

I have never tried match lighting the oven but the burners will definitely match light.

 

[dnw64]

Some electric ignition gas ranges will not match light. If they will, a sparker will let you use the burners but not the oven.

We had an electronic ignition LP range. Twice over the years that sparker stopped working and we had to "match" (I used a butane lighter) light it. Oven would work too, as the sparker actually lit a pilot light, so you could match light the pilot. But the pilot was only enabled when the oven was turned On.

 

[bdhsfz6]

I remember as a kid back in 1956 when my father took out our coal burner and electric hot water heater. He converted to a brand new Sears Roebuck gas furnace with tankless coil. No more running out of hot water when the family took their morning showers. He was happy as a clam at the lower electric bill and not having to do battle with the coal furnace.

That was, until the first winter when we all nearly froze to death. It turns out, the gas mains in the neighborhood were too small to handle peak demand on cold days. The gas pressure would drop and the furnace would shut off. He complained to the gas company and was told there was nothing they could do. The gas pressure was already at max for the old pipes and the planned replacement project was years in the future. He had to supplement the gas heat with electric and the bills were higher than ever.

Sometimes, well intended plans don't work out.

 

[jyoutz]

I remember as a kid back in 1956 when my father took out our coal burner and electric hot water heater. He converted to a brand new Sears Roebuck gas furnace with tankless coil. No more running out of hot water when the family took their morning showers. He was happy as a clam at the lower electric bill and not having to do battle with the coal furnace.

That was, until the first winter when we all nearly froze to death. It turns out, the gas mains in the neighborhood were too small to handle peak demand on cold days. The gas pressure would drop and the furnace would shut off. He complained to the gas company and was told there was nothing they could do. The gas pressure was already at max for the old pipes and the planned replacement project was years in the future. He had to supplement the gas heat with electric and the bills were higher than ever.

Sometimes, well intended plans don't work out.

I’m sure that most gas lines have been upgraded since 1956.

 

[bdhsfz6]

Ye

I’m sure that most gas lines have been upgraded since 1956.

Yes, they were in fact replaced in 1967, after my father sold the house.

The thread prompted a memory I thought I'd share. Not likely a problem today, but something to think about in older neighborhoods.

 

[Eagle1]

From 2019.....found it interesting.
A 30-inch diameter 160-year-old cast iron pipe was recently excavated and retired from gas service in Chicago, Illinois. Installed in 1859, this pipeline provided Chicago’s residents, fewer than 112,000 at the time, with reliable lighting at night. As the years passed, this cast iron pipe continued to provide dependable gas service in the tough urban environment of downtown Chicago

160-Year-Old Gas Line Shows Resiliency of Iron Pipe

 

[ultrarunner]

I’m sure that most gas lines have been upgraded since 1956.

My first neighborhood is 1922 and the plan was to upgrade gas lines but this has been shelved as California moves away from permitting natural gas and the work I see is transformer upgrades… some utility poles are 100 years old…

I still have 1922 galvanized water pipe and knob and tube electric.