Maxxforce diesel engines

[Hay Dude]

Have an opportunity to buy a truck with a Maxxforce 9.3L diesel. It’s the “emissions” version of my HT-570 in my 2007 International dump truck. It has a problematic DPF and an even worse cooled EGR.
I have heard many nightmares. This engine line/family basically put IH out of the OTR truck engine business for good.

We all know how the rumors fly, but I also still see many running. Solutions to their problems have become available. I know an aftermarket HD EGR cooler is available for their problematic EGR.

If the price was right, would you take a chance? New replacement engines are $30K now, and I’d rather not do that, but like I said, if the price was right, would you take a chance?

 

[dodge man]

I’d guess you’d know more about it than the rest of us. Would you buy a Ford with a 6.0 diesel? The problems and solutions are well known with those.

 

[Hay Dude]

Really I do t know all that much. I do know there's a few guys here with trucking & diesel engine experience I'd like to get opinions from

 

[mrmikey]

Do not under any circumstances purchase that boat anchor on wheels (IMHO). Keep in mind I'm not a mechanic just a lowly weldor so take my opinions correspondingly LOL.
We had bought a dozen or so and they were scrapped after 3-4 years at a great loss where our usual lifespan was 10-12 years. The advice from International after a year or constantly chasing repairs " We advise you to sell your current chassis before they start costing you more money" real helpful.....not.
Problems started showing up on some of them less than two months after purchase mostly (if I remember correctly) egr systems internally leaking. The problems were bad enough but there were no parts available for repair. Mind you that was a fairly new engine so I guess that explains the parts availability.
Oil consumption was terrible, dealer knowledge was mostly non existent. Reason I knew of all the breakdowns was a friend of mine was operating a unique unit mounted on a chassis so when it was down it really screwed up a lot of people. In the end the machine was removed from the chassis and put on a new different brand, Mack I believe it was.
We even looked into repowering the chassis with I think it was Cummins who had a retrofit engine available but it was designed for school busses.
When the 'running' chassis were sold at auction they didn't bring much more than scrap.

 

[mrmikey]

HD, you decide if it's worth taking a chance?

 

[Hay Dude]

HD, you decide if it's worth taking a chance?

I’m thinking about looking at it tomorrow but it’s a 4-5 hour drive and I’m real busy.
He’s practically throwing it at me. No check engine lights. Inspected. Engine slightly “modified” to make it a bit more reliable……

Very affordable, but there’s a reason..

 

[mrmikey]

Very affordable, but there’s a reason..

That's the scary part.
Anyway you can get the vin and have a record of the warranty work done?

 

[hiddentacocatneddih]

Egr cooler failure = hydro lock

Big risk.

 

[Hay Dude]

Egr cooler failure = hydro lock

Big risk.

I would immediately install aftermarket EGR system.
Probably $5,000.
Even after that I'm still way ahead on cost.

 

[tacticalturnip]

Is there anything wrong with the current truck? This seems like a pain in the arse.