Project Farm, counterfeit batteries.

[buckeyefarmer]

I have replaced norelco batteries, just solder in a new one,

 

[California]

I have replaced norelco batteries, just solder in a new one,

Yeah, I've done maybe a half dozen over 50+ years. But this last Norelco shaver seems designed with no way to get the battery out without destroying the circuit board.

It was a promotional 'special edition' on closeout at Fry's, discounted way below normal, likely mfr overstock. (I'm cheap!) It works same as any other Norelco. Internally it really looks like they designed it to prevent battery replacement.

Amazon.com

 

[buckeyefarmer]

Yeah, I've done maybe a half dozen over 50+ years. But this last Norelco shaver seems designed with no way to get the battery out without destroying the circuit board.

It was a promotional 'special edition' on closeout at Fry's, discounted way below normal, likely mfr overstock. (I'm cheap!) It works same as any other Norelco. Internally it really looks like they designed it to prevent battery replacement.

Amazon.com

I’m sure it is. They want to sell new one.

 

[Jstpssng]

I've got a couple of Dewalt knockoffs that I bought in 2020, just as things started getting crazy.


I didn't realize they were coming from China until I saw the receipt on PayPal.
They have worked fine so far, although lately they haven't kicked the charger off the way they should.

The odd thing is that the only correspondence I ever had with the company was when they got payment preapproved from PayPal. They never sent a confirmation letter or shipping notice... and I never was actually charged for them.

 

[MRTOES]

We live in a time of counterfeit government. The number calling you is not real....does the government care.....NO....Goods are counterfeit, who cares.....One thing is real....the money lobbyist use to grease the wheels......of government....

 

[Oaktree]

It's been many years, I'm afraid I can't give a link.
As for those nah sayers - these batteries were larger in size and had a nice charge indicator on them. I have been working them hard for years and my wife has been abusing them lol, still ticking.
Sure there are imposters and sub quality batteries out there. You do your own research and ultimately you do you.

Just for grins I Googled Ryobi replacement batteries. Some aftermarket ones showed up at walmart.com, reviews weren't very good. Didn't see any others listed.
I'll just take advantage of Fathers day sales at HD and get the real deal.

 

[CliffordK]

I recently opened a 2ah oem black and decker battery pack, the battery's were 1.3ah, would love to know how BD got that rating.

A while ago John Deere lost a class action lawsuit for over-rating the HP of their lawn tractors. I'd think that a major manufacturer selling improperly rated battery packs could land them in hot water. One or two batteries don't amount to much, but a class action lawsuit about millions of batteries could hurt.

On the flip side bad counterfeits are out of control on Amazon

I've read that one of the problems is Amazon puts all the 'identical' products offered by different vendors into the same bin. So when the picker fills your order, it's random luck whether he pulls genuine or counterfeit out of that bin.

Mixing vendors for Amazon Fulfillment could make warranty claims and disputes problematic.

Perhaps it is time for the US Government to force certification such as UL-Listed for all electronics.

Then a company like Amazon could find themselves in hot water if they sell items that are either not UL-Listed, or have fake certification credentials.

For items that are less than 20 years since release, and are still covered under patents and trademarks, then the companies need to also go after Amazon (who is looking the other way).

Now, if it is listed as "For XYZ brand", then it may get around trademark issues, but may still be hit by UL certs.

 

[buckeyefarmer]

So much fake stuff now on Amazon, they consider it a part of MSM.

 

[BarryTX]

I've got a couple of Dewalt knockoffs that I bought in 2020, just as things started getting crazy.
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I didn't realize they were coming from China until I saw the receipt on PayPal.
They have worked fine so far, although lately they haven't kicked the charger off the way they should.

The odd thing is that the only correspondence I ever had with the company was when they got payment preapproved from PayPal. They never sent a confirmation letter or shipping notice... and I never was actually charged for them.

Some companies there mastered the copying.

 

[Muhammad]

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