Proposed ban on gas stoves...

[Gale Hawkins]

They have been promising a new, cheap, clean, reliable, and plentiful source of energy for the past 30 years. And...here we are discussing banning cook stoves.

True and GM has been promoting EVs for 30 years and still don't have a successful mass produced EV to yet they have publicly to end ICE production by 1935.

Banning cook stoves has not been discussed. The banding of burning of fossil fuels has been discussed however. I do not blame the burning of fossil fuels as a cause of the current floods in California and Pakistan.

 

[Gale Hawkins]

The biggest hindrance to flying cars is federal regulations (AKA red tape)...most early developers (and their investors) went belly up trying to meet said regs etc...been that way as long as the concept...!

If not finding liability insurance for said ventures.

 

[MossRoad]

True and GM has been promoting EVs for 30 years and still don't have a successful mass produced EV to yet they have publicly to end ICE production by 1935.

Banning cook stoves has not been discussed. The banding of burning of fossil fuels has been discussed however. I do not blame the burning of fossil fuels as a cause of the current floods in California and Pakistan.

what?

 

[5030]

Another wacko comment.

 

[Jstpssng]

I do have a couple induction compatible non-stick frying pans,

I guess that's fine. What's a few PFAs in our water supply, as long as it's to save the environment?

 

[Hay Dude]

I guess that's fine. What's a few PFAs in our water supply, as long as it's to save the environment?

PFOAs

The gas stove ban, although attractive, is a distraction for bigger issues we should be paying attention to.

 

[Fuddyduddy1952]

Gas stoves was on page 3528 of the omnibus spending bill which no one read.

 

[/pine]

Good luck to cooks (including professional chefs) who prepare dishes that require the heat to be reduced immediately etc...
Try it on an electric stove...especially the ones that you can go back 15 minutes after turning a burner off and fry an egg...

 

[Fuddyduddy1952]

Wok doesn't work on electric

 

[Larry Caldwell]

My recollection is reading that the Romans built floors with flue ways to conduct heat generated by burning wood.

Their houses were heated by a hypocaust in the basement. My dad had a cousin with a pre-electricity furnace built like that. Warm air circulated by convection. It looked like a big old octopus with huge ducts going to every room in the house.

 

[ruffdog]

That pic is so blurred, cant tell anything. Heck, i havnt even seen non digital pumps for more years than i can remember.

what stone age state do you live in

I think that pump is the one moonshine is sold out of.

 

[Larry Caldwell]

REALLY???????????

Here is a picture of the gas pumps down the road from me. Notice the price on the pump in the picture all the way to the right???? Its LEADED 110 octane!
You drive right up to it, buy as much as you want, pay the man, then drive away! I`m not going to comment any longer. There`s the proof, deal with it however you wish!

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For $12.95/gallon? That's probably left over from 1995. Who would buy that?

 

[kenmac]

That's not something to laugh at. It's true. Poor people with gas stoves, no ventilation, using the gas stove for heat, things like that, increase health risks.

The poor people's homes I have had the pleasure of working in is far from being air tight.. They are poor and can't afford the tight built homes of today.
Many of these poor people can't afford an air tight home.
Trust me, they'll be ok with their gas range.

My grand parents lived a ripe old age ( in their 90's) with their gas range.

You should be more worried more about what your food is sprayed with, and your beef is fed, more than the effects of what a gas range has on the body

Don't they still call this place the ''land of the free '' ?

 

[Gale Hawkins]

I know I can find research's saying the exact opposite. Unless your research stats it's going to be free because it will be tax funded which mean it's still not free...

I will look forward to reading your research saying the exact object when you post it.

 

[two_bit_score]

Research mainly!

Research is saying geo-thermal is less expensive, better, cleaner and will make wind and solar obsolete in the future.

 

[Gale Hawkins]

Research is saying geo-thermal is less expensive, better, cleaner and will make wind and solar obsolete in the future.

I will look forward to reading that when you post it.

 

[two_bit_score]

And flying cars .

And jet belts.

 

[Fuddyduddy1952]

Years ago when I built our garage I needed lots of heat right away so I got a 250,000 btu propane heater on a 500 gallon tank. Then I got concerned about fumes so I talked with an engineer with the city gas company. He said a new heater, working properly, running on LP gas it primarily puts off CO2 and water, the CO (carbon monoxide) is extremely low. Assuming I was getting enough fresh air it's very safe.
The three propane furnaces, stove, wall unit, water heater are vented, B-vent. The furnace exhaust is PVC plastic so you know they're efficient. Condensation is pumped outside.
Propane burns clean.

 

[goeduck]

A bit off topic, but I prefer an induction cooktop over gas. That said, no way the gubbamint should ban gas stoves. We shouldn't have all of our eggs in one electric basket.

 

[Torvy]

Used electric most of my life. Now that I have tried gas, never going back. The electric oven is fine, but a gas range allows me to cook in ways that are just impossible with electricity (induction or no). For example, I can put peppers directly on the flames to 'burn' the outer skin.

I need propane (would prefer NG) to run our backup generator anyway. Electric is more expensive to heat water, too. I know some 'science' pretends electric is more 'efficient' for heating homes, but when you experience both it is clear that gas does it better. You see, some science is done to advance ideology. My direct experience is only relevant in doing the job better in my situation.

For us, the indoor fireplaces are as much about ambiance as heat. They do allow us to keep the thermostat set lower and take the chill out of the room we are in.

I'm pretty sure whomever did these studies did not know much about cooking and made some huge assumptions. I also found it ironic that someone was arguing that people didn't use electric burners much as an argument to support the ban. The same would be true about gas. The volume of gas needed to cause problem would never exist for the vast majority of people.