My Industrial Cabin Build

[EddieWalker]

We got hit pretty hard last week here in East Texas. Everything closed down for two days, and the panic shopping stripped the shelves at Walmart. My hot tub gazebo shows just how bad it got!!!!

No snow guards here. Never even heard of them. We just let it build up and hope for the best.

 

[hayden]

If it all comes down at once it can smash your windows out. Or kill someone.
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OK. We've never had a problem with either. It slides off before the build-up gets that large. If we let it accumulate without sliding off, it would be 3+ feet deep and one heck of a snow load. But it snows a lot more here than in VA.

 

[coldsteelva]

The problem with VA and the mid-Atlantic region in general is the type of winter precipitation that we get. We don't get light, powdery, dry snow here all the time. Occasionally we get powder, but most often we get a heavy moisture laden snow that leads to the disaster that was the I-95 debacle.

We also routinely get these large temp swings before or during the storm so they start as rain, then shift to freezing rain/sleet, then snow on top of the 'cake'. And the once per decade period when we get several feet of snow - it's not feet of powder; it's mostly moisture laden heavy snow and ice that you wouldn't want to be sitting upon your roof for days. Especially if they call for additional snow load.

 

[ovrszd]

We got hit pretty hard last week here in East Texas. Everything closed down for two days, and the panic shopping stripped the shelves at Walmart. My hot tub gazebo shows just how bad it got!!!!

No snow guards here. Never even heard of them. We just let it build up and hope for the best.

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I was Stationed at Ft Sill, OK 50 years ago. Got 12" of snow and the Fort closed. Lawton also closed. I was highly amused.

 

[buckeyefarmer]

I was Stationed at Ft Sill, OK 50 years ago. Got 12" of snow and the Fort closed. Lawton also closed. I was highly amused.

Dad was at ft sill about 80 yrs ago.

 

[WoodChuckDad]

Dropping a video now.

Installing Snow Guards on Standing Seam Metal Roof. Couple Builds Dream house.

 

[EddieWalker]

Those snow guards look really good. Will they stop the snow from doing any more damage to your stove pipe? I was surprised by how it looked in your video!!!

I was also surprised by your vent pipes coming through the roof without any flashing. Did you just use caulking or silicone to seal around them?

In my opinion, you really need to install vent pipe flashing. OATEY Master Flash 6 in. x 6 in. Vent Pipe Roof Flashing with 4/5 in. - 4 in. Adjustable Diameter 14051 - The Home Depot

 

[WoodChuckDad]

Those snow guards look really good. Will they stop the snow from doing any more damage to your stove pipe? I was surprised by how it looked in your video!!!

I was also surprised by your vent pipes coming through the roof without any flashing. Did you just use caulking or silicone to seal around them?

In my opinion, you really need to install vent pipe flashing. OATEY Master Flash 6 in. x 6 in. Vent Pipe Roof Flashing with 4/5 in. - 4 in. Adjustable Diameter 14051 - The Home Depot

I bought those same flashings for the pipes. My roofer did it the way I showed. I plan to put ice/snow diverter in front of the pipes and will be keeping a close eye on them. I will probably end ip putting the flashing on and sealing it to the metal roof.
The snow guards will help keep the snow from flowing down our roof. Buy the diverter is the best defense. It is probably overkill but I always go for the overkill. I am having issues getting my materials together for them but I’ll be installing them.

 

[buckeyefarmer]

I was surprised the roofer didn’t flash the vents better.

Got those snow guards done in time, you will test them tonight.

 

[WoodChuckDad]

I dont expect much accumulation of snow today. Too warm. It was 60 degrees yesterday and it is 34 right now.
Yesterday, I was getting the excavator running. I had previously had a fuel/water issue. After sitting for a long time. The water settled out and I was able to drain it off yesterday. I put the batteries back inAnd it started right up. I had been dreading it and expected to have to drain the fuel and take it to the recycling station. I will need that excavator because i need to get the well line in.
The electrician came and installed the panels and we are approved for early service. So I need to get ready for that. I have some dirt work I need to do behind the house, get that back area and slope the way I want it I plan to put in a retaining wall and want to get all my digging done before they trench for electric.
I never knew how beautiful a meter box could be.

 

[buckeyefarmer]

Transfer switch beside the meter ? And how will you get the top piece of siding in behind the top box?

We have 4” snow so far.

 

[pmsmechanic]

In our rural area the meter boxes and transfer switches are on the power pole in the yard. That way as you add buildings the power can be trenched from the pole or the house instead of just from the house. I have mixed opinions on how this is set up. There might be regulations or ideas that I haven't thought of.

 

[747driver]

Dad was at ft sill about 80 yrs ago. View attachment 732931

Dad was at ft sill about 80 yrs ago. View attachment 732931

Those barracks are the same kind of barracks i was in at Sheppard afb in 1971 for my tech school ! Thanks to your father for serving !

 

[747driver]

I dont expect much accumulation of snow today. Too warm. It was 60 degrees yesterday and it is 34 right now.
Yesterday, I was getting the excavator running. I had previously had a fuel/water issue. After sitting for a long time. The water settled out and I was able to drain it off yesterday. I put the batteries back inAnd it started right up. I had been dreading it and expected to have to drain the fuel and take it to the recycling station. I will need that excavator because i need to get the well line in.
The electrician came and installed the panels and we are approved for early service. So I need to get ready for that. I have some dirt work I need to do behind the house, get that back area and slope the way I want it I plan to put in a retaining wall and want to get all my digging done before they trench for electric.
I never knew how beautiful a meter box could be.

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Looks like the transfer box and conduit are right on the siding seam ? Did you make sure that seam is sealed well ? That could be a problem down the road if the sealant fails ?
The progress looks great and you will be excited to throw the power switch on !!!

 

[ovrszd]

Thanks for the updates as usual!!!

I'm always intrigued by how much difference there are in procedures based on location and utility companies. Here the meter and disconnect is never located on the structure. Their concept was to minimize the chances of a failure in either causing a fire to the structure. Mine is located in the backyard. Underground in conduit from the disconnect, underground to the house, under the slab coming up into the bottom of the main panel inside.

 

[EddieWalker]

Is that an exterior breaker panel next to the meter? Will you have two meters for your house? one for the garage/shop building and one for the house?

I haven't seen this done on new construction, or anything built in the last 50 years. They used to do this a long time ago, but now everyone wants their breakers on the inside of the house so they can get to them if something trips, and you don't have to deal with the weather in the middle of the night.

I was told that I could have up to 1,200 amps off of a single transformer. Most people out in the country seem to go 400 amps, but the cost wasn't very high to max it out. From my meter, I have a panel with six 200 amp breakers. From the breaker, I run my lines to the 200 amp breaker boxes. I have one for my house, one for my shop and one for my parents house, that I built behind my house. I still have three 200 amp breakers available.

 

[747driver]

Here in Tenn. its a straight run from the transformer vault to the meter, then the meter to the breaker box inside the building. No Transfer or cutoff switch involved.

 

[pmsmechanic]

Here in Tenn. its a straight run from the transformer vault to the meter, then the meter to the breaker box inside the building. No Transfer or cutoff switch involved.

We only get transfer switches if you are running a generator.

 

[dstig1]

I know you already have your main panel inside, so what is the extra box and the conduit running up to the smaller box on the outside?

Also, since it looked like your roofers did a good job overall, I am hesitant to throw around the word incompetent, but that is a major dereliction of proper roofing procedure to not put flashing boots around the vent stacks and properly flash them into the roof. There is no way that is anything close to acceptable.

 

[ovrszd]

Here in Tenn. its a straight run from the transformer vault to the meter, then the meter to the breaker box inside the building. No Transfer or cutoff switch involved.

If you need to kill the power going to the building how do you accomplish that?