looking at new toolcat

[laurencen]

so a bit more info, they moved the diesel filler to drivers side and the hydraulic oil filler is now under the box, not a biggie but use to filling on the other side, the response on the go pedal will take some time to get use to, and would appreciate any suggestions on the transition from fast speed with cruise to slowing down, its instant brake, this does need some tome to figure out.

defiantly a must have power tach, beets getting out to lock the attachment, have to install a beacon, looking at the kit it has a grommet, hoping its not drill a hole in the cab, the series A had the wires outside the cab already.

will need some service, the drivers door has a gap of 1/4 inch at the front, im guessing adjustment but tried the bolt the door latch locks onto, its not slotted and there is a bracket this bolt mounts has 2 bolts holding it, loosened them and the bracket does not slide so at a loss how this is adjusted.

 

[ruffdog]

will need some service, the drivers door has a gap of 1/4 inch at the front, im guessing adjustment but tried the bolt the door latch locks onto, its not slotted and there is a bracket this bolt mounts has 2 bolts holding it, loosened them and the bracket does not slide so at a loss how this is adjusted.

The door latch will latch up in 2 stages, loose first and tight if you slam it. Check to see if it is just latching at the first stage. It might be adjusted too tight and it is not reaching the 2nd tight stage. My bracket is slotted where it is held by the 2 bolts under the dash.

 

[laurencen]

The door latch will latch up in 2 stages, loose first and tight if you slam it. Check to see if it is just latching at the first stage. It might be adjusted too tight and it is not reaching the 2nd tight stage. My bracket is slotted where it is held by the 2 bolts under the dash.

thanks, its latching in 2 places, I tried loosening the 2 bolts and seemed to move but when tightening it wants to pull back to the original position, will have to take another look later today

 

[Xfaxman]

so a bit more info, ---------------------------------------
the response on the go pedal will take some time to get use to,

Explain please, too slow or too fast?

and would appreciate any suggestions on the transition from fast speed with cruise to slowing down, its instant brake, this does need some time to figure out.
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Have not used cruise on the G Series, so no help here. Do you have your foot on the go pedal when you turn off cruise?

 

[DEWFPO]

Are you decreasing the speed setting or just disengaging cruise control? If you just disengaging, then I would assume the controller is seeing a setting of some xx mph, and then zero. So once the hydraulic pressure to the motors is turned off, the auto brakes engage automatically bringing you to an abrupt halt. I would try reducing the cruise control setting to slow down or putting you foot on the go pedal (that will take some getting used to I imagine to get it where you want it when you disengage).

DEWFPO

 

[laurencen]

the slowing from cruise is way better these days, decreasing the speed it the way to go, the door now seals as it should, the service guy massaged the door and good to go.

got a total of 20 hours now, snow is done for the year so need to find a mower, built a wood splitter for the excavator a few years ago, im looking for idea for the toolcat

 

[laurencen]

Quick update, door is fixed with a service call, they massaged the door to fit the cab, it now closes with the same force as the passengers.

with the warmer weather and now doing the odd run up the hill to get a load of sand this new one is definitely slower than the old gal, indicated speed was 28 to 29 K kph depending on terrain but on flat roads it was easily maintained, this new machine is topping out at 22 to 23 kph, this converts to 13 to 14 mph, the specs say it should reach a speed of 18 mph, curious what sort of speed other Toolcats reach, 4 mph does not sound a lot but when I travel half mile to the pit it seems forever

 

[ruffdog]

Quick update, door is fixed with a service call, they massaged the door to fit the cab, it now closes with the same force as the passengers.

with the warmer weather and now doing the odd run up the hill to get a load of sand this new one is definitely slower than the old gal, indicated speed was 28 to 29 K kph depending on terrain but on flat roads it was easily maintained, this new machine is topping out at 22 to 23 kph, this converts to 13 to 14 mph, the specs say it should reach a speed of 18 mph, curious what sort of speed other Toolcats reach, 4 mph does not sound a lot but when I travel half mile to the pit it seems forever

Wow, that sounds slow. What tires do you have?

 

[DEWFPO]

Quick update, door is fixed with a service call, they massaged the door to fit the cab, it now closes with the same force as the passengers.

with the warmer weather and now doing the odd run up the hill to get a load of sand this new one is definitely slower than the old gal, indicated speed was 28 to 29 K kph depending on terrain but on flat roads it was easily maintained, this new machine is topping out at 22 to 23 kph, this converts to 13 to 14 mph, the specs say it should reach a speed of 18 mph, curious what sort of speed other Toolcats reach, 4 mph does not sound a lot but when I travel half mile to the pit it seems forever

My 2009 will only hit an indicated 18mph going down hill. No kidding. Not even on flat ground of which there is little here. The steeper the uphill grade, the slower it goes up, even unladened and at full power. It's just the way it is.

DEWFPO

 

[laurencen]

Wow, that sounds slow. What tires do you have?

hi ruffdog, tires would not come into the actual indicated speed, at least that's my thought, the series A would do 18 to 20 mph indicated all day

 

[laurencen]

after discussions with the service have to check a couple things tonight, first is there a stop on the go pedal preventing it from full stroke, the other is the motor reaching the rpm of 2600, will ley them know shortly

 

[ruffdog]

hi ruffdog, tires would not come into the actual indicated speed, at least that's my thought, the series A would do 18 to 20 mph indicated all day

If you have the 29 inch tires, you can change the controller settings so it thinks you have the 27" tires. You would in fact gain speed in that instance.

edit...doing this would net you a 7.4% gain in speed.

 

[laurencen]

If you have the 29 inch tires, you can change the controller settings so it thinks you have the 27" tires. You would in fact gain speed in that instance.

edit...doing this would net you a 7.4% gain in speed.

interesting, that is a dealer setting correct? the tires are 27 inch tall

the motor revs out to 2630 rpm no load, it holds 2600 rpm at 10 mph but as it increases to full speed it peaks out at 2300 rpm,

 

[ruffdog]

interesting, that is a dealer setting correct?

the motor revs out to 2630 rpm no load, it holds 2600 rpm at 10 mph but as it increases to full speed it peaks out at 2300 rpm,

Look under Control Panel Setup in the manual where you determine the perimeters for Two-speed, High Flow, Horsepower Management, and Tire Size. Look in the chapter named System Setup and Analysis.

edit...I'm not sure if it would get you more speed or if it just changes the calculation of indicated travel speed.

 

[laurencen]

thanks ruffdog, I would have figured with the extra HP and turbo it could reach and maintain full speed of 17 to 18 MPH, at 13 mph the motor is at 2300 rpm, never reaches the 2600 however the percentage the motor is down rpm does not equate to 18 mph.

will get hold of dealer tomorrow, 4 mph does not sound a lot but its 30% increase in the current speed, the dealer has to figure this out, reading regards tire size, indicated speed is unchanged but actual ground speed will increase going from 27 to 29 inch tires.

 

[laurencen]

now the wait, first idea was the engine is loaded up with machine moving, this is something they have to sort out, the motor is not bogging down and if it is Bobcat should revise the specs to reflect 13 mph as top speed, no where does it state 17 mph is a calculated speed if motor holds 2600 rpm

the series A had a 30hp motor no turbo and would run all day at a solid 18 mph on flat roads

anyone have the newer 5600 that could see if it can run 2600 rpm and reach the indicated speed of 17 mph, had I known this would definatly been a deal breaker

 

[DEWFPO]

Is 2600 rpm your maximum no load engine speed?

DEWFPO

 

[laurencen]

Is 2600 rpm your maximum no load engine speed?

DEWFPO

yes it is, just sitting and rev it up, over lunch will let it warm up, rev it up and slowly see when it starts to drop and what speed its at

 

[laurencen]

bit more info, throttle motor to 2000 rpm, high speed on and push pedal fully the rpm drops about 105 but recovers quickly and runs 12 mph, same test at 2200 rpm it drops rpm but recovers quickly and speed 12.5 mph, now 2600 rpm, drops to 1600 rpm recovers slowly to 2300 and speed 13 mph, length of driveway is 1 km and it never recovers, something real off on this one, on no test does the motor bog or sound like its working.

at this time dealer has no idea

 

[Xfaxman]

I removed the brush hog from the front and tested our G Series with 29 inch Trac (R4) tires.

Idles at 1220 in neutral move lever all the way up, goes to 2630 then slowly drops to 2600.

Throttle motor to 2000 rpm, in forward, high speed on and push pedal fully the rpm drops to 1500 but recovers quickly.

Same test at 2200 rpm it drops rpm but recovers quickly, didn't check speeds.

Level road, throttle motor to max, shows 2630, slowly drops to 2600 rpm, in forward, high speed on and push pedal fully the rpm drops to 19xx and climbs quickly to 2630, settling to 2600 and 18.3 mph. Max speed on slight downhill was 18.7 mph.