Corona Virus #6

[pennwalk]

I thought the Hammer and the dance article was interesting. I have been wondering about masks.

Once we have enough masks, we can use them outside of the healthcare system too. Right now, it’s better to keep them for healthcare workers. But if they weren’t scarce, people should wear them in their daily lives, making it less likely that they infect other people when sick, and with proper training also reducing the likelihood that the wearers get infected. (In the meantime, wearing something is better than nothing.)

Chris

 

[the old grind]

Give it another week or two ... and then tell us how you feel about it.

In a week or two we'll still see apples and oranges. It's a chart of history, however incomplete, not the crystal ball some may envision. In "a week or two" it will again show how many cases have been reported compared to countries with several x less population. Meanwhile, maybe we all have it and just don't know it.

No it does not mean that we have more cases. It means we have more cases that have been confirmed. Note that cases cannot be confirmed unless people are tested. If a country does not test and has none confirmed yet are 100% infected, they would be lower on the chart. The chart is meaningless.

Holy Cow... just plowed through 100+ posts.... You guys have too much patience or time on your hands. ... Statistics can be displayed to tell just about any story one wants. Not arguing there is or isn't an issue here but be careful in the comparisons made.

Thank the press for their contribution. Their record is unapproachable, such as predicting all nine of the last three financial meltdown. Hah! Retired tractor owners are far more accurate in their predictions. ("RK tractors won't sell" ... "Branson is barely in the market" .. "Bobcat tractors are beter/less than similar Kiotis", etc)

If the chart is as accurate and as prescient as some say, I was dead on to say we'll all have Covid 19 by the end of the year. It doesn't take a brain surgeon to understand exponents.

Now do China ...

You mean get facts from the most reliable source? Sure, that'll be China to put all the non-facts of this thread into perspective. If one of can see the future in actual numbers he'd prove it. The chart keeps hanging up on the day you look at it.

 

[MossRoad]

Lilly Tomlin commented on that...

Have I reached the party to whom I am speaking? :laughing:

 

[rswyan]

I thought the Hammer and the dance article was interesting. I have been wondering about masks.

Once we have enough masks, we can use them outside of the healthcare system too. Right now, it’s better to keep them for healthcare workers. But if they weren’t scarce, people should wear them in their daily lives, making it less likely that they infect other people when sick, and with proper training also reducing the likelihood that the wearers get infected. (In the meantime, wearing something is better than nothing.)

Chris

Correct ...

 

[rswyan]

In a week or two we'll still see apples and oranges. It's a chart of history, however incomplete, not the crystal ball some may envision. In "a week or two" it will again show how many cases have been reported compared to countries with several x less population.

Now do China ...

 

[the old grind]

Have I reached the party to whom I am speaking? :laughing:

Well it's really a wake we're having here, but Moss if your line doesn't get through you're welcome to deliver a telegraph instead.

Remember to wear gloves and leave it on the porch out of the rain so the wind can carry it net door to 'those people'.

 

[MossRoad]

Once again, leave the politics out of it. Take it to the politics forum.

 

[MossRoad]

Thread pruned again.

 

[RSR]

In a week or two we'll still see apples and oranges. It's a chart of history, however incomplete, not the crystal ball some may envision. In "a week or two" it will again show how many cases have been reported compared to countries with several x less population. Meanwhile, maybe we all have it and just don't know it.

If the chart is as accurate and as prescient as some say, I was dead on to say we'll all have Covid 19 by the end of the year. It doesn't take a brain surgeon to understand exponents.

I find there is hope in the charts. We can learn from what other countries have done. About 2 weeks after imposing strict social distancing, China saw an inflection point in the curve and it leveled off. Italy enforced strict quarantines almost exactly 2 weeks ago. They have seen a drop in daily cases and deaths for the last 2 days, indicating they have likely hit an inflection point as well (although we will still need a few more days to be sure).

That tells me if the US enacts the same policy, we can turn the corner on this (but not be out of the woods) in 2 weeks. If we don't enact strict quarantining, it is going to continue to grow exponentially just as the chart grows. Some states have figured this out. Others have not. Some people have figured this out. Others have not.

The sad part is if we continue to delay, the outcomes will be far worse. NY has been in quarantine for 2 days. The data (charts) show we probably have 12 more to go until we see an inflection point, although cases and deaths will continue to rise after that.

Currently, cases and deaths are doubling every 2-3 days. Best case scenario is in 12 days, we will double 4 times. So, the 100 deaths we saw yesterday will turn into at least 1,600 and could be as high as 6,400 DAILY deaths. And that's just NY.

 

[tradosaurus]

Once again, leave the politics out of it. Take it to the politics forum.

I looked but couldn't find the politics forum.