China Corona Virus #2

[Molalla1]

Do we have any old farts in this thread?
'Ok Boomer!'

:laughing: Maybe a few of us.

 

[RNeumann]

You may want to check your assertion.

Flu ~ 1 in 1000

Coronavirus ~ 1 in 29

Thats a factor of 34 X. Hardly slightly​

Unfortunately the real data is hard to come by and the numbers quoted don’t reflect the reality worldwide.

Two things make this bug unique. The area where it started (Wuhan) has the disproportionate ratio of deaths per case. But that info may turn out to be wrong too. Because (point two) the bug is so hard to self detect (most don’t know they have it or only feel slightly ill) their are likely many cases that didn’t get reported a the virus.

Bottom line- the entire world has supposedly only seen something like 2600~ deaths. And when you take Wuhan out of the stats (likely something else there precipitating the symptoms or the early reporting was skewed) this is has stats that are more inline with what most call the flu or yearly flu in the USA.

Poor diet, poor sewer systems, lack of exercise and car wrecks, worldwide are killing hundreds of times more people than this. That thing many stare at for hours a day exists to sell you. They figured out the more scary and salacious they make it the more people stare. The “stats and reports” from websites or TV that have advertising aren’t a good source for data and won’t help one paint a realistic outlook of this.

 

[ovrszd]

Do we have any old farts in this thread?
'Ok Boomer!'

I don't know about you guys but I have the maturity level of a 16 year old.....

 

[sd455dan]

1st case in America ? state of California

"At this time, the patient exposure is unknown,'' the CDC said in a statement. "It is possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States.
Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It is also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.''

some more info on this patient and US testing

Looks like California could be right-"I think extremely likely by contact from a returned traveler"

Travis air force base in the close vicinity

Other info that stood out from Med Cram Video:
Chest CT outperformed the PCR test and using both is more accurate


Coronavirus Epidemic Update 27: Testing accuracy for COVID-19 (CT Scan vs. RT-PCR), California Cases - YouTube

 

[YanmarFever]

We went to costco this morning for our usual 2 week grocery run, 1/3 of the shoppers were buying bleach, Clorox hand wipes, water, peroxide, and goodies.
The clorox was stacked on pallets 3 high for customers to buy.
Yes, I bought some too...

 

[Molalla1]

I don't know about you guys but I have the maturity level of a 16 year old.....

:laughing: My mind says that but my body says NO.

 

[ovrszd]

:laughing: My mind says that but my body says NO.

We're planning an offroad buggy gathering here at the farm on Sunday. I'll have to go to bed real early Saturday night so I can keep up with the young gang I hang out with.

 

[YanmarFever]

8,400 people being monitored for coronavirus in California

8,4 people being monitored for coronavirus in California amid 28 confirmed COVID-19 cases, governor says | FOX 5 New York

 

[/pine]

IMO anyone that has traveled back into the US from any of the infected countries and has not reported it should be criminally charged and given mandatory jail time...!(if they survive the virus)...something like one month for every person they MAY have exposed to the virus.

 

[shooterdon]

Living rural has many advantages.

 

[Steppenwolfe]

:laughing: Maybe a few of us.

Not the first time you walked point, huh buddy?

 

[dragoneggs]

Just canceled my next business trip to Japan/Korea mid April. My company was also exhibiting at the huge JEC Composites show in Paris next week. This huge Exhibition was just postponed a couple plus months as well. About 50,000 people from over 100 countries attend this show... what a logistical nightmare!

 

[Jstpssng]

I don't know about you guys but I have the maturity level of a 16 year old.....

Are you the guy who is sueing to have his age reduced, because he doesn't "Identify as somebody of 69"? That could be the way to beat the statistics.

 

[Jstpssng]

IMO anyone that has traveled back into the US from any of the infected countries and has not reported it should be criminally charged and given mandatory jail time...!(if they survive the virus)...something like one month for every person they MAY have exposed to the virus.

Back in the Ebola scare our governor took a lot of heat because he felt that nurses returning from helping should be quarantined. In my mind, either he was right; or else the "Doctors without Borders" need to be a little more diligent about letting us know why that wasn't necessary.

 

[California]

The Flu pandemic of 1918/19 happened in three phases. The first phase was somewhat mild, the second phase is the one that killed 40+ million people, and the last phase was somewhat mild. Its estimated that 1/3 of the world's population at that time got infected: And this was before the age of the jet and casual tourism.

No jets in 1918 but there was even worse exposure in slow troop ships. Article: Infectious Diseases In World War 1. It says "About a quarter of the US population fell ill. Perhaps one-third of the world population were stricken. Recent studies now estimate 50 million flu deaths worldwide with a possible upper limit of 100 million".

I've been aware of the epidemic of 1918 ever since my grandmother explained that caused her hoarse voice.

Returning soldiers carried flu to the ends of the earth. Looking for a suitable photo like this, many I found were from New Zealand history archives.

 

[ovrszd]

Are you the guy who is sueing to have his age reduced, because he doesn't "Identify as somebody of 69"? That could be the way to beat the statistics.

Thats me.

 

[California]

Are you the guy who ... doesn't "Identify as somebody of 69"?

Thats me.

Found the prude! :laughing:

 

[Molalla1]

Not the first time you walked point, huh buddy?

Nope . . .

 

[SPYDERLK]

Back in the Ebola scare our governor took a lot of heat because he felt that nurses returning from helping should be quarantined. In my mind, either he was right; or else the "Doctors without Borders" need to be a little more diligent about letting us know why that wasn't necessary.

It wasnt necessary because Ebola can only be transmitted after significant fever develops and the course of the disease proceeds into the messy stage. Self monitoring for fever by a medical professional proved to be 100% effective to establish isolation conditions prior to transmissibility.