"95+% of the time when I'm harvesting sawlogs or firewood,"<< I probably use less than 75', I always try to back up as close I can especially to saw logs. Only place I'd need 200'+ of cable is if was doing mountain logging and yes with that much cable out an extra person for a spotter would be a must for me, other wise my 200' cable would end up in half in no time.
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"95+% of the time when I'm harvesting sawlogs or firewood,"<< I probably use less than 75', I always try to back up as close I can especially to saw logs. Only place I'd need 200'+ of cable is if was doing mountain logging and yes with that much cable out an extra person for a spotter would be a must for me, other wise my 200' cable would end up in half in no time.
John_Mc
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Our existing trails do not allow us to get within 75' of the majority of our trees, and we're not interested in building a trail up to each area. However, I do agree that it makes sense to get as close as you can while still allowing a good area for bunching logs.
Hello
I made a hydraulic skidding winch.
Here's a little video.
Maybe someone is looking to build ideas.
TYM 433 : Kole kärakas. - YouTube
I made a hydraulic skidding winch.
Here's a little video.
Maybe someone is looking to build ideas.
TYM 433 : Kole kärakas. - YouTube
Sawyer Rob
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Hydraulic winches are about like watching paint dry! Can you imagine how long it would have taken to winch that log 100 feet or even further?
Nice job on the build, but it's WAAAAY too slow!
SR
Nice job on the build, but it's WAAAAY too slow!
SR
John_Mc
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Hello
I made a hydraulic skidding winch.
Here's a little video.
Maybe someone is looking to build ideas.
TYM 433 : Kole kärakas. - YouTube
That is a cool build! and that's a pretty good-sized log you are pulling with it. Your tractor sounds as though it's running not much above idle in that video
Are your hydraulics driven off the tractor hydraulics, or a PTO pump?
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You did a good job on that. At first glance I thought that it was factory made and was waiting to see what you had made.Hello
I made a hydraulic skidding winch.
Here's a little video.
Maybe someone is looking to build ideas.
TYM 433 : Kole kärakas. - YouTube
I also like the "critter" tracks running across the top of that first log.
Citydude
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That is a nice build! Thanks for posting.
Yes, of course, it's slower than the PTO winch. Fortunately, I don't have mountains here.
I can usually drive straight to the tree. Winch is just in case.
I use the tractor hydraulics and the tractor was idling.
Here are some more pictures.
I can usually drive straight to the tree. Winch is just in case.
I use the tractor hydraulics and the tractor was idling.
Here are some more pictures.
I just watched it, a big 10-4 on that....................
This is how fast a winch is suppose to go, also this was a staged demonstration with over acting but with real actors, I could've just backed up to the tree, darn I spoiled the ending.............
L34 and PTO winch - YouTube
L34 and PTO winch - YouTube
goeduck
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That is impressive !
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I debated a 3Pt grapple, but needed the reach of a logging winch, so that's what I bought. I eventually ended up buying a forestry grapple for the front end.
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That's typical of most logging winches. Mine is rated for 3 feet per second (180 FPM or about 2MPH or 3 KPH) with the spool half full. I'm assuming this is at the rated 540 PTO speed. I never run full PTO speed. I'm typically around 2/3 of that, but since I have 230 feet of cable and most of my pulls are probably half of that or less (unless I'm in an unusual situation), I'm also generally running with the spool more than half full, which speeds things up a bit. I'm guessing a typical winching speed for me is probably around 125 FPM.
That said, Virx1 said he's able to drive right up to most trees, so a short pull at slower speeds is probably not that big a deal for him. If he wanted higher speeds, he could crank up the RPMs to get more flow out of his tractor's hydraulics to get a bit more, or switch to a PTO hydraulic pump, if his winch could handle the flow rate. It sounds as though it works well for him, and at a reasonable cost, since he made it himself.
My winch speed is rpm related, (one small tree= idle) (medium pull= 1500-2000 rpm<<<Most often used) (risk cable break pull= 2500 rpm<<<Very rarely used) extremely upset, throwing chainsaws, hammers, axes and anything I can get my hands on = blow motor wide open<<<haven't been there yet and that's probably because I dont have a Hoyt Clagwell tractor..................
hslogger
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I may have missed something in previous posts but nowhere did i read about a simple way of starting a log with less force. If you put a choker around the log with a wrap, when you tug on it, it will give the log some inertia help by it starting with a role and then the pull in the direction you wish to proceed. You have the set the hook or choker bell on the opposite side down a the bottom
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That's a good point, and a trick I use often to roll the tree from behind the stump.
What is that tuck in your signature? There isn't enough of it showing to tel, but it looks like something older which you restored.
That's a good point, and a trick I use often to roll the tree from behind the stump.
What is that tuck in your signature? There isn't enough of it showing to tel, but it looks like something older which you restored.
CobyRupert
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Good point.
I've never put a full wrap, but often bring the hook under the log and hitch it to the choker chain that comes over the top of the log on the "back side" of the log. This does 2 things:
1) Gives the log a 1/2 roll when cable is tensioned. As you mention, it's good if log needs to get away from stump, or rock etc..., but more importantly:
2) I use a open grab link on my chokers, so this way gravity holds the grab hook on the chain, and the tension on the cable end of the choker, from the weigh of the slack cable off the top, holds it tight too.
Yes, snap hooks (which get bent to h*ll) or a proper log chain choker hook would prevent this, but it took me a long time to figure out best way to prevent the hook from falling off choker when the cable is rattling around when you're taking up the slack.
goeduck
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I also made a log grapple, and for me this kit is initially enough.
With them I get my firewood from the forest
Grapple Making:
Very impressive !
