Flail Mower Let's talk flail mowers

   / Let's talk flail mowers #5,221  
I have a JD 110TLB with 33 pto hp.
I've been using a JD 25A for 4 years with no issues.
I've always wanted a JD 390 off-set, well I finally bought one from CL.
The JD web site said the Minimum hp is 30, the used manual I bought said Minimum is 40 hp.



It was missing a skid shoe or a Runner as JD calls it
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Missing teeth on the v-belt
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It has 10 new blades mixed in with the old ones, that might be causing it to shake / vibrate.
(new blades 7 oz old blades 6.4 oz)
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Got it home and found out the roller was locked up. (freed it with a 4ft pipe wrench)
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A crack in the 3pt hook-up
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Boy do I need a BEER!
 
   / Let's talk flail mowers #5,222  
Just for the sake of knowing more about these machines and your piece of mind:

You do not want to grease the heck out of these machines. 4-6 pumps every 6 or so hours of mowing is all you need unless you plant on mowing for longer periods of time as they are selaed on one side and you need to prevent blowing out the seal in the inboard side.

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IF your worried about price The smallest Del Morino Mounted Flail mower from EA or the Peruzzo boom mounted mower(from Iowa Farm Equipment) will give you more flexibility simply because of thier range of motion and increased potential for income from mowing contracting work.

The Peruzzo Girafetta and its bigger brothers have cast hammer flails and have a stronger knife versus the Delmorino Orchard and Vineyard mowers that have the very heavy heat treated side slicer knives both of which provide a very good mowing result.

Please keep in mind that many good used John Deere 25A, 290, 390 model flail mowers come up for sale and they are an excellent option for your needs as well as they will let you mow right down to 2 inches in height with little trouble.

Many equipment resellers also place excess new and used equipment up for sale on tractor house and auction time.


It may be much more beneficial to invest in a used 25A, 290 or 390 for now to get used to these fine flail mowers and go from there; and if you decide to add a second implement a small boom mounted unit from Del Morino or Peruzzo it will let you have a more versatile implement for your use and for a potentional second source of income from mowing.

AND these fine implements will out last your current mule and also work very well if you decide to trade in the current mule and go to a larger engine and frame size/implement carrier.

I am not trying to cloud the issue I just want you to be an informed consumer of information.

Thanks leonz for the welcome perspective. I've enjoyed reading your experiences with various flails in this thread and some of the others where you also posted.

I'm trying to avoid older iron in this particular purchase if possible. I know that the types of problems presented by DocDryden (great JD flail you found there, sir!) just downthread from my post are all fixable, but they are more than I want to tackle at present. At the moment, I need to find something I can hook up and run with.

Regarding size, this flail will be used to clear and then maintain about 5-6 acres (depending on how the tractor behaves on the steeper ground) that has not been consistently mowed or grazed since 2014. I actually have a 32" Del Morino rotary brush mower and a 31" Palladino flail mower for my BCS, but there's never enough time required to clear even a portion of this ground with these little units. I need a bigger flail that I can hook-up once or twice a year and go to town. Mowing for others for $$$ is conceivable, but not a big priority. With my little Palladino, I have learned to temper my greasing to (hopefully) the right amount, though I wish that the manufacturers designed the seals to allow for grease to bleed to a visible location when one adds just enough.

The budget, size, and age requirements for my situation pretty much limit me to Caroni, Del Morino, or Woodmaxx. If the Chinese steel and bearings of the Woodmaxx are really inferior, then I'll go with one of the Italian models. However, the photos, features, and yes, marketing of the Woodmaxx look far superior relative to the costs. The ability to get a hydraulic-side-shift model ready to go for ~$300 more (vs Agri-Supply's model of 'for $1,000 we'll eventually send you a bolt-on hyd kit but no instructions'), the easy-access hatch for knife maintenance, the supposedly automatic belt tensioning, the slip-clutch PTO shaft included, etc. are all compelling advantages, IF the flail otherwise performs as expected.

Before making any decision though, I want to hear from owners of each model. Posts here at TBN by owners of the Caroni make me confident that ordering their TM1900BSC from Agri Supply could be a workable solution, if a little less feature-rich than Woodmaxx. The 6' Del Morino does not seem to offer a whole lot of advantage compared to either, and the more I read the more I think that a 7' flail is too large for the L-39, which is rated as 30 HP at the PTO.

Thanks & keep the replies coming!

-otus
 
   / Let's talk flail mowers #5,223  
Woodmaxx is using NSK bearings according to the Website.
 
   / Let's talk flail mowers #5,225  
Hello Otus branch,

Just so you know this can be done you can order the TM1900 with the hydraulic side shift factory installed when the unit is
assembled in Italy by the way so no worries there.
There are a lot of good used flail mowers for sale so you will not lose anything in buying one from a dealer if you intend on mowing only twice a year.
 
   / Let's talk flail mowers #5,226  
   / Let's talk flail mowers #5,227  
Unless I missed it. The poster purchased a 54" model that did not have rear door and tensioner. My FM-62H has all the features that come on a Woodmaxx. It is little over a month old.

Are you still happy with it Ron? I’m still “looking” at the FM-78H for my LS XR4155HC. It came with three rear remotes so, I won’t have to disconnect top or side tilt cylinders, to use the side shift.

I’d really like the FM-88H but, I’m 6 PTO HP shy of the minimum 50 HP required. My 3-point is CAT2.

I keep hearing rumors that LS understates their PTO HP and that one or more dealers have actually done dyno tests on some models.

Haven’t been able to run that down so ........ that’s my excuse for sitting on my hands and not getting an FM on order.
 
   / Let's talk flail mowers #5,228  
It was my post and you are correct it was a 54”. The 54 appears to be a a diffent design from the larger ones. FWIW neither the door or they’ll adjustment is an issue. There’s a rubber flap on the back I can lift to access the blades and I kind of like the simplicity of a a jack screw to adjust the belt. So far it working well.
 
   / Let's talk flail mowers #5,229  
Are you still happy with it Ron? I’m still “looking” at the FM-78H for my LS XR4155HC. It came with three rear remotes so, I won’t have to disconnect top or side tilt cylinders, to use the side shift.

I’d really like the FM-88H but, I’m 6 PTO HP shy of the minimum 50 HP required. My 3-point is CAT2.

I keep hearing rumors that LS understates their PTO HP and that one or more dealers have actually done dyno tests on some models.

Haven’t been able to run that down so ........ that’s my excuse for sitting on my hands and not getting an FM on order.
I ran a 7' flail on my L3200. 32hp, 25PTO if I recall. My current L4060 has 40hp, probably 35PTO & I run my new Peruzzo Super Bull 2200 on it, 87" working width, 1,700lbs (my machine couldn't quite lift it with the forks on the pallet. I have to run a bit slower, but they run fine. I'd rather go wide & slow than bouncing all over the cab with a skinny mower going fast.
 
   / Let's talk flail mowers #5,230  
I ran a 7' flail on my L3200. 32hp, 25PTO if I recall. My current L4060 has 40hp, probably 35PTO & I run my new Peruzzo Super Bull 2200 on it, 87" working width, 1,700lbs (my machine couldn't quite lift it with the forks on the pallet. I have to run a bit slower, but they run fine. I'd rather go wide & slow than bouncing all over the cab with a skinny mower going fast.

Hmmm... Fallon's got me reconsidering the 84" Del Morino as a potentially viable choice...

-otus
 
 

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