stupid question - bucket removal

/ stupid question - bucket removal #61  
Fluid Film is a great product, just make sure to shake it well before using.

Thanks. Will do. Very anxious to see what Fluid Film can do for me.
 
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#62  
Well, I got lucky. My dealer is the one who is handling my recall and they will be here Sunday to pick up the tractor. A bit of a relief as they seem like good people and I'd prefer to keep dealing with the same people instead of a new dealer. We'll see what they figure out. I'll still try to get some fluid film before tomorrow and give it a try.
 
/ stupid question - bucket removal #63  
chsdiyer who is your dealer doing the work?
 
/ stupid question - bucket removal #64  
fwiw, I have the XJ2025 and I have noticed that one side of the bucket always makes contact first.

In addition to the above positioning suggestions it would seem that it might help to lower the bucket until one side made contact, then put something such as a 2x4 under the other side to shim it so that when the weight was on the bucket there would be no twisting stress on the arms.

Beverly Howard
 
/ stupid question - bucket removal #65  
Thanks, picture is worth a thousand words. Hope your foot healed well and good lesson to share with everyone. God Bless.
 
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#66  
Received my tractor back from the recall work. They said when they received it the bucket was very hard to get off. He had to hit the pins from underneath to pop them loose. After that he didn't have trouble with them. Of course I never had trouble getting the bucket off right after I put it on, but yesterday and I did some work with the ratchet rake on the bucket and when I got done I decided why not try and get the pins up. I pulled and it took some effort but I was able to do it by hand. He did grease the pins and bent the handles back closer to where they should have been. Gives me optimism about fluid film working for me. Hope to try this weekend when i get rid of this stomach bug. Thanks for all the feedback! I'll update how the fluid film does.
 
/ stupid question - bucket removal #67  
Fluid Film is a great product, just make sure to shake it well before using.

How long does Fluid Film seem to last on pins and such? Does it wash off or wear off? I bought a couple of cans to try but haven't had a chance to use it yet.
 
/ stupid question - bucket removal #68  
I expect fluid film will need to be reapplied about once a month with moderate use. I keep a can in the cup holder on my tractor to spray everything that moves that doesn’t have a grease zerk. I like that it pretty much goes where you want and stays there. It’s doesn’t just run off like light oils.
 
/ stupid question - bucket removal #69  
I expect fluid film will need to be reapplied about once a month with moderate use. I keep a can in the cup holder on my tractor to spray everything that moves that doesn’t have a grease zerk. I like that it pretty much goes where you want and stays there. It’s doesn’t just run off like light oils.

Thanks Dave. Does it appear to creep well and get in to all the nooks and crannies? I just can't believe a lanolin based product with no solvents can work miracles. I want to believe because I hate corrosion.
 
/ stupid question - bucket removal #70  
Thanks Dave. Does it appear to creep well and get in to all the nooks and crannies? I just can't believe a lanolin based product with no solvents can work miracles. I want to believe because I hate corrosion.

I put some on a rusty bolt and nut, a couple of days ago, and when first applied, it bubbled a bit then just soaked in. They came apart easily yesterday.

Another product called “Slick Stuff” was suggested, on another thread so I grabbed a can at Lowe’s the other day. Haven’t had a chance to use it yet. Looking for something to do a side by side test against Fluid Film. FWIW the Slick Stuff is about same price as Fluid Film, at Lowe’s.

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Edit: You can also get Fluid Film in a gel form with brush applicator can.

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/ stupid question - bucket removal #71  
PB Blaster is a real penetrant that works very well. Follow it up with white lithium grease, either aerosol or paste. It's weather resistant, highly visible in white so you know where it's applied, and easy to see when it needs to be reapplied.
 
/ stupid question - bucket removal #72  
Thanks Dave. Does it appear to creep well and get in to all the nooks and crannies? I just can't believe a lanolin based product with no solvents can work miracles. I want to believe because I hate corrosion.

I don’t use fluid film as a penetrant, just as a lube and preservative. Use it like a spray can of lithium lube or WD-40. (WD-40 is a poor penetrant). Fluid Film doesn’t smell too bad and is actually good for your hands.
I guess the best way to describe Fluid Film is its like spray grease. It basically stays where you put it and lubricates and preserves wonderfully. It is expensive though...But it is totally worth it when I go to hook up a PTO shaft and everything slides together nicely.

I use PB blaster for penetrating lube (or Kroil if I can find it) but I get an earful from the wife when I use it and get it on me because it stinks so bad.
 
/ stupid question - bucket removal #73  
I put some on a rusty bolt and nut, a couple of days ago, and when first applied, it bubbled a bit then just soaked in. They came apart easily yesterday.

Another product called “Slick Stuff” was suggested, on another thread so I grabbed a can at Lowe’s the other day. Haven’t had a chance to use it yet. Looking for something to do a side by side test against Fluid Film. FWIW the Slick Stuff is about same price as Fluid Film, at Lowe’s.

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Edit: You can also get Fluid Film in a gel form with brush applicator can.

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You can buy Fluid Film in gallon and five gallon pails on Amazon for $180. They even have a spray gun for undercoating automobiles.
Very good investment to help protect a vehicle where the roads are salted.
 
/ stupid question - bucket removal #74  
I don’t use fluid film as a penetrant, just as a lube and preservative. Use it like a spray can of lithium lube or WD-40. (WD-40 is a poor penetrant). Fluid Film doesn’t smell too bad and is actually good for your hands.
I guess the best way to describe Fluid Film is its like spray grease. It basically stays where you put it and lubricates and preserves wonderfully. It is expensive though...But it is totally worth it when I go to hook up a PTO shaft and everything slides together nicely.

I use PB blaster for penetrating lube (or Kroil if I can find it) but I get an earful from the wife when I use it and get it on me because it stinks so bad.

I’ve found WD-40 to be ............ not good for much.

I do keep some PB Blaster in the shop. Also a can of their dry lube. I use the dry lube on padlocks that are out in weather and shop drawer slides.

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/ stupid question - bucket removal #75  
Lots of product perform well. I have used many penetrants and many lubricants over the years.
My 3 favorite sprays are Fluid Film, Kroil Oil, and Corrosion X.
Fluid Film is NOT petroleum based. It doesn't not evaporate or dry up like petroleum based products. But it's down side is that it will not handle high pressure or high heat.
Kroil Oil is a great penetrant and protectant.
Corrosion X is my go to for electrical stuff. It even works underwater. I put it on electrical stuff that get wet.
 
/ stupid question - bucket removal #76  
Don't ever take the bucket on or off at waist level. I was putting mine on at waist level and it came off the mounts. OUCH !!!! five broken toes and a lot of tissue damage.

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Just came across this thread. Hope you're well on the way to recovery by now. I often change back and forth from loader to grapple on my XJ2025 without problem. When I did have a rare misalignment, I used to do exactly what you did. Not anymore. Thank you for the graphic warning/ reminder post. Funny, but I need to be reminded not to do careless things with this little tractor that I would never do with the big one.
 
/ stupid question - bucket removal #77  
It got a lot worse looking than that. But is getting much better now. Doctor's tomorrow and hopefully will be cleared to start walking on it.
 
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#78  
Well...I'm a believer! Without any attachments on, the pins still fell a little "sticky" (not retracting easily). I wiped off the grease that I could from the pins. I sprayed the fluid film all around the pins. I put the bucket on and put it to work for a few hours. I went to swap the bucket for the forks and the pins unlatched without hesitation. Night and day difference! Thank you again for the suggestion and all the feedback everyone provided!
 
/ stupid question - bucket removal #79  
Fluid Film works great. It is not for high heat or high pressure, but there are so many other things I use it for. It does not evaporate like petroleum products do nor does it turn hard as a rock like some greases do.
 
/ stupid question - bucket removal #80  
Fluid Film works great. It is not for high heat or high pressure, but there are so many other things I use it for. It does not evaporate like petroleum products do nor does it turn hard as a rock like some greases do.

 

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