The things that we do and why...

   / The things that we do and why... #21  
Thanks guys.........Guess it wasn't my time. BTW, the power company guys did a great job of restoring electricity....in less than four hours. The nice thing about downed and dead trees ...............It's Fall Party & Bonfire Time!!!
Cheers,
Mike

Glad you are still around Mike, roast a hotdog for me later..:)
 
   / The things that we do and why... #22  
In almost all the cases, someone failed to first make an undercut when cutting a limb off, so they lost control of it and it landed tip first. Properly cutting a limb typically requires three cuts. The first two cuts are to remove the limb and are slightly out from the final cut. The removing cuts are an undercut, and then a top cut slightly out from the undercut. This should result in the limb breaking off cleanly and landing butt first (or nearly so). After the limb is removed, a final cut is made to remove the stub at the "branch bark collar".

This is also true when using a manual pole saw. Sometimes you have to adjust the blade (change the angle or flip it around) so you can make the undercut first.
 
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In almost all the cases, someone failed to first make an undercut when cutting a limb off, so they lost control of it and it landed tip first. Properly cutting a limb typically requires three cuts. The first two cuts are to remove the limb and are slightly out from the final cut. The removing cuts are an undercut, and then a top cut slightly out from the undercut. This should result in the limb breaking off cleanly and landing butt first (or nearly so). After the limb is removed, a final cut is made to remove the stub at the "branch bark collar".

This is also true when using a manual pole saw. Sometimes you have to adjust the blade (change the angle or flip it around) so you can make the undercut first.

I was thinking that the limb might of come down better that way to, but that high up on a ladder, I don't know, still might of went wrong if Murphy was there.
 
   / The things that we do and why... #26  
Of course the true idiot ignores all the evidence and experience of others , and gets in his automobile and drives less than 3 miles to his death.

Familiarity is often a supplement for the sense of safety. As I heard it best (and still rings true) "Keep your wits about you".
 
   / The things that we do and why... #27  
If you do it once and it does not work out , that is ignorance . IF you do it again that is stupidity .
 
   / The things that we do and why... #32  
I never thought of Channel Loks as an essential forestry tool before.
I usually reserve accordian felling for smaller trees; I think I would have just dragged the butt out with a truck or ATV winch or something.
 
   / The things that we do and why... #33  
This is why you hire a tree removal specialist...:) 172390.gif
 
   / The things that we do and why... #35  
Cut it ALMOST all the way (leaving a good hinge), get down, remove ladder, THEN pull on rope. :)

Bruce
 
   / The things that we do and why... #36  
It is hard to tell from the video clip, but it might also have been possible to reach the cut line from the roof. When you are on a ladder, there is no clear line of retreat (I don't count "down" as a clear line of retreat!).
There are lots of videos online of ladder-felling disasters.
 
   / The things that we do and why... #37  
It is hard to tell from the video clip, but it might also have been possible to reach the cut line from the roof. When you are on a ladder, there is no clear line of retreat (I don't count "down" as a clear line of retreat!).
There are lots of videos online of ladder-felling disasters.

Or start by taking off all the limbs and trunk above there and then take down the trunk in shorter sections.
 
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#38  
Cut it ALMOST all the way (leaving a good hinge), get down, remove ladder, THEN pull on rope. :)

Bruce

We'll maybe but where does the rope go and how did it get there,?, the ladder didn't look to tall. I could pull a 100lbs. so how thick is a 100lb. good hinge, I suppose if the neighbor comes over half in the bag and says hold my beer, that would increase to 500lbs. of pull, depending on what brand of beer......
 
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(I don't count "down" as a clear line of retreat!)<<<<<<<<<<<good point, me either........
 
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Or start by taking off all the limbs and trunk above there and then take down the trunk in shorter sections.

That plan might require a different taller ladder, but that also sounds risky. I beginning to think from what I've seen, cutting trees or tree parts from any ladder is a bad idea and or unsafe, but can be funny if no one gets hurt.
 

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