Logger's eye.

[Shield Arc]

Anyone here know how to make these?

 

[Jim Timber]

Looks like a harder version of this:

 

[Shield Arc]

But Jim, not everyone has a press. A marlin spike is a lot cheaper.

 

[Jim Timber]

Got a log splitter?

 

[hslogger]

http://www.worksafebc.com/publications/health_and_safety/by_topic/assets/pdf/splicing.pdf
Here
is everything you might wanna know about splicing wire rope.

What is pictured in the initial positing would qualify as a "farmer's eye" around here. Farmer's eye splice is pretty much frowned upon because of the jaggers. When a guy goes to buy chokers and lines, we get them fabricated like the Westech Video. Safety first!

 

[Mysfyt]

Similar to a Flemish eye.

http://youtu.be/bqQhs_Nl-xM

 

[Shield Arc]

Similar to a Flemish eye.

We always called those Molly Hogan. Or Farmer's eye.

 

[Shield Arc]

We always called these a Molly.

 

[Jim Timber]

The biggest problem with cable around here is lack of anyone who carries proper clamps. The junk we can get at hardware stores isn't safe for a swingset, much less a tree limb, and don't even think about a trunk.

The guy who moved my 20' cargo container (almost into the swamp ) had 3 clamps slip off before he ever got the thing loaded.


I haven't tried it (yet), but I've been kinda itching to make a crimper head for the log splitter. Most of my trees are small enough I could get by with a 5' choker. I can get reasonably thick drops of AR400, so I'd just need to mill the profiles and they'd be ready for use.

 

[crazyal]

There's a guy around here that makes good money at ski areas splicing the ends of the cables for the ski lifts together. When I was doing NDT inspecting chair grips I watched him. He had about 30 feet of staging set up high enough to the cable could rest on top of it at normal height. He would just go back and forth weaving each strand. I didn't watch closely but it looked like he would just but opposing stands together with the joints staggered over the 30' section.

My father taught me how to do it with nylon rope with and without the metal insert. Being big into sailing that was one of the skills he taught himself at a young age. I've done the method Shield Arc posted but I used a swaging sleeve like in the second post/ video. I only have a 20 ton press so the swage is really just for keeping the ends of the wire from poking out. I just take a thick piece of steel drill a hole through it slightly smaller than the swage (usually do a couple of different size holes if I'm not sure) and then cut the metal in half to make a set of dies to crimp it. If the wire is small enough, like when I had to make my own custom length cables for the garage door, then I'll trust the press to have enough force to crimp it but for something like 1/2" cable I'd rather do too much and know it's not coming apart.

 

[Shield Arc]

Jim I think it was in the 1980s when OSHA put a stop to installing clamps on the wire rope used for cranes. Their thought process was the clamps break wires in the wire rope. I've seen this happen with Farmer's eyes. Believe it or not. Roll a Farmer's eye with an extra long tail, and use electrical tape, instead of cable clamps.

 

[Shield Arc]

There's a guy around here that makes good money at ski areas splicing the ends of the cables for the ski lifts together. When I was doing NDT inspecting chair grips I watched him. He had about 30 feet of staging set up high enough to the cable could rest on top of it at normal height. He would just go back and forth weaving each strand. I didn't watch closely but it looked like he would just but opposing stands together with the joints staggered over the 30' section.

crazyal that is called a Long Splice. Back in my conveyor installing days, I helped do some of them.

 

[Rustyiron]

SA, I expected you to have a way to weld it:laughing:
I can't even do a decent splice with rope, wire rope, just take me to the ememgency room for new finger tips.

 

[Jim Timber]

The tow jockey didn't do anything but fold the end and clamp it. We just don't have good forged clamps here - gotta mail order it or pay through the nose at Graingers, and even they don't stock them locally, so you might as well mail order it.

Spliced wires are a thing of beauty from a physics perspective. The notion that the force acting to pull the cable out is the same one that's preventing it from going is pretty darn cool.

 

[escavader]

Any one ever heard of the saying "never saddle a dead horse"??

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[Jim Timber]

Yep, the dead end is always pinched by the u-bolts.

 

[Oldpath05]

Those cable eye's in that second post video are nice, if I had that press, I'd probably do the same thing, and if I had enough patience and know how, I'd make them like Shield Arc's way, but in my world I do what I can do and what works. My Fransgard pto winch has 8 mm cable, and from ware and tare, the cable brake's, so I use two 3/8 cable clamps, clamp the cable in the vise, cut it with a welder, the best way IMO to cut cable with no frayed wire ends, while hot round over with hammer, make the eye and put two camps on tight, those clamps are big enough to keep the end from pulliong through the cable slide while winching.

A short story that still give's me the creeps after 35 years when I used to log with cable skidder, one day the cable broke, had to be re-cut and get the slides
back on, the boss of our small woods crew had a cable cutter, passed it to me with a sledge hammer, I said let me go get my safety glasses in my car , not far away, the other skidder driver said something about, we don't have time for that and took the sledge hammer and cable cutter, and with one wack, the boss had to take him to the eye doctor. Lessons learned, ware safety glasses when duty calls.

 

[Rustyiron]

I allway's forget what part is the "saddle", so these give me no problems. An old fashioned "wedge socket"

 

[mapper]

I remember watching cable splicing competitions at the Deming logging show back around the late 60's, they were using lengths of used yarder mainline, two inches or more in diameter, the stuff was pretty much like what they dealt with every day on the job. They had to trim then splice or put an eye in it. They would cut the cable with a sledge and axe, the strand weaving was all by hand using a marlin spike and hammer. Those guys could complete the splice in about a minute or less. It was impressive to say the least.

 

[Luke'sScreenName]

I allway's forget what part is the "saddle", so these give me no problems. An old fashioned "wedge socket"


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Is that where the phrase "the bitter end" comes from? Cool.