Which Older Tractor - A Few Options I've Found

[GManBart]

That tractor is more than double his budget.

Which is why I said the Massey of the three listed, and then explained why something newer might be worth considering.

 

[GManBart]

That 40 hp cab tractor is pretty small. He better shell out 70k for a new M69. Don't forget to add a hydraulic thumb on the hoe, and a grapple, and a front mount snow blower. Then you will need hydraulics to run the snow blower and grapple. Now, you are going to need a F-350 diesel, and a 20k axel gooseneck to haul it with.

Nobody recommended a 40hp machine...that comment was very clearly poking fun at people who might suggest something like that if the thread grows.

 

[4570Man]

Nobody recommended a 40hp machine...that comment was very clearly poking fun at people who might suggest something like that if the thread grows.

And my comment also was clearly poking fun. The package I recommend likely cost as much as his house.

 

[stan33]

If it were me with your budget and landsize, I might think about going for a Massey 35 with original Massey loader. Lightweight loader with trip (not hydraulic) bucket, which I think, can be converted to hydraulic (check that). You might get away with not having power steering with this combo. Loads of 35's still around and parts are cheap and plentiful. Easy to fix and maintain. But as others have said, you will probably need to spend money once purchased.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJS-cJRAEjw

Some for sale here with loaders:
http://www.tractorhouse.com/list/li...contains&bcatid=464&Pref=0&Thumbs=1&scf=false

It's probably not ideal but with a limited budget your choices aren't many if you want a loader.

 

[LD1]

If getting a loader, power steering is a huge plus. I wouldn't even want one without

 

[4570Man]

If getting a loader, power steering is a huge plus. I wouldn't even want one without

Me neither. My Kubota B7100 doesn't have power steering or a loader. It sucks to mow with. It would be even worse with a loader.

 

[jenkinsph]

While the Massey Ferguson 175 may need some repairs and fix ups without a closer look it is hard to know. I would look at it and see if the transmission, brakes and steering check out. Look it over to determine what it needs to fix it up to make it work. Might want to take someone with you more knowledgeable to help you decide.

That said above the tractor is simple enough that you shouldn't have a lot of ongoing problems. IT ISN'T A NEW TRACTOR but at $4500 that is a fair price if in decent shape. I would not buy a MF 35 as suggested before a 175 because the larger 175 can loaf along and still get more work done. While it isn't pretty a little work and a paint job might make it look good. If you have some mechanical ability this would be an easy fixer upper.

 

[stan33]

It would be great if the Massey had a straight transmission, without multi-power. They can be a very handy option, but very expensive to fix on the Massey's.

Tractor data seems to show that all 175's had Multi-power. If so then I wouldn' touch it.

 

[jenkinsph]

Tractor data seems to show that all 175's had Multi-power. If so then I wouldn' touch it.

There were two other transmissions available, a 6x2 and an 8x2 both gear transmissions without multipower. That is according to tractordata on the transmission page.

 

[stan33]

There were two other transmissions available, a 6x2 and an 8x2 both gear transmissions without multipower. That is according to tractordata on the transmission page.

Quite right......didn't see that further down the page. However, I still wouldn't touch this one if it has multi-power.

 

[clayrogers]

I appreciate all the information guys!

I don't really NEED to buy anything of the ones I posted. I am just hoping to get something by spring. I have been watching CL for a while and as far as 4x4 tractors in my budget, I only remember seeing a MF 210 4x4 for $4600 that sold really quick.

I originally was thinking of just getting a 8n but I've just read so much saying you really want a live PTO. Then, I do think the loader would be really nice to have also. I know you get get a loader for a 8n but it seems like a lot are just trip buckets.

Are there some models of older tractors that given my budget you guys would recommend? That way, I can keep an eye out for those.

 

[murphy1244]

Keepa lookout for a Massey Ferguson 135 too. Nice machine and plenty of them out there for less than 5k.

 

[LD1]

Ford 3000, 4000, 5000's are quite popular. (and the newer variants like 3600,4600, etc)

Also see a lot of older internationals with loaders around that price. the 44x4 or 5x4 tractors. (substitute about any number for the x), like a 424, 444, 464, 574, 584, etc

 

[jenkinsph]

I appreciate all the information guys!

I don't really NEED to buy anything of the ones I posted. I am just hoping to get something by spring. I have been watching CL for a while and as far as 4x4 tractors in my budget, I only remember seeing a MF 210 4x4 for $4600 that sold really quick.

I originally was thinking of just getting a 8n but I've just read so much saying you really want a live PTO. Then, I do think the loader would be really nice to have also. I know you get get a loader for a 8n but it seems like a lot are just trip buckets.

Are there some models of older tractors that given my budget you guys would recommend? That way, I can keep an eye out for those.

To buy a tractor for less than $5000 requires some looking. I would recommend you be ready to buy with cash in hand and do the foot work. For instance the MF 175, find out which transmission it has and go see it. Look around your locale, ask other locals and see what turns up. If you see something you like then ask if it is for sale and make an offer. This is how used dealers find them.

 

[kevin37b]

I do not understand WHY anybody would want any of those 8N , 9N ,2N , ABSOLUTELY worthless . Henry and Harry made tons of money on the produce 1000 a day philosophy . 3 PT Will not lift unless PTO running ,too light to do any real work , aka draft control . Draftomatic was mearly cheater fora tractor that could not plow .But he could produce AND SELL .

 

[Soundguy]

Out of that list? Massey, no question..

 

[LD1]

I do not understand WHY anybody would want any of those 8N , 9N ,2N , ABSOLUTELY worthless . Henry and Harry made tons of money on the produce 1000 a day philosophy . 3 PT Will not lift unless PTO running ,too light to do any real work , aka draft control . Draftomatic was mearly cheater fora tractor that could not plow .But he could produce AND SELL .

Thats a bit harsh.

Sure there are lots better options. But keep in mind that the N-series is 70+ year old tech. It was designed to replace a horse. And they are still useful today. But tractors have come a long way in 70 years.

To say it cant do real work is like saying a Kubota BX or B cant do real work either

 

[stan33]

I only remember seeing a MF 210 4x4 for $4600 that sold really quick.

Leaving the issue of a loader aside for the moment, I think your hunch for something in the MF 200 series is sensible. Most of them had stuff like power steering and 2 stage clutch as standard with no multi-power. Parts for most of them are cheap and easy to find and they are built like tanks. I would be careful however, of the 210 as they were I think the only one in the 200 series to be built in Japan by Hinomoto for Massey and they are quite rare....getting parts for them may be a real headache.


Edit: The 205 was made by Toyosha, Japan.

 

[Soundguy]

I do not understand WHY anybody would want any of those 8N , 9N ,2N , ABSOLUTELY worthless . Henry and Harry made tons of money on the produce 1000 a day philosophy . 3 PT Will not lift unless PTO running ,too light to do any real work , aka draft control . Draftomatic was mearly cheater fora tractor that could not plow .But he could produce AND SELL .

I have to disagree on a point.

N plowed VERY WELL with a 2 bottom plow. Draft is a bonus / benefit when plowing. not a crutch.

 

[Soundguy]

I do not understand WHY anybody would want any of those 8N , 9N ,2N , ABSOLUTELY worthless . Henry and Harry made tons of money on the produce 1000 a day philosophy . 3 PT Will not lift unless PTO running ,too light to do any real work , aka draft control . Draftomatic was mearly cheater fora tractor that could not plow .But he could produce AND SELL .

I have to disagree on a point.

N plowed VERY WELL with a 2 bottom plow. Draft is a bonus / benefit when plowing. not a crutch.