Which Gooseneck Trailer?

[Lineman North Florida]

I am getting real close to purchasing a new gooseneck trailer and wanted some advice/opinions, I want a 25' deck with a 5' dovetail, I will be pulling it with a 2015 3/4 ton Chevrolet 2500 HD with a 6.0 gas motor, the absolute heaviest thing that I will be hauling is a John Deere 5093e with a loader and loaded tires and a 7' bush hog mower but mostly a smaller tractor and mower. What I am most curious about is should I go with 2 7K single axles or 2 10K dual tire axles, the money is very little difference and it is quite a bit more hauling capacity with the dual 10k axles and even though I don't really need it I would have it just in case. Last question is my truck going to handle the dual tandem trailer without it being to much of a burden? I don't haul for a living just now and then 100 mile trip to my hunting/fishing camp, the rest will be round rolls of hay from the field to the barn. Charlie.

 

[Trials]

Check your drivers license to make sure your current license classification will accommodate the vehicles GVWR and look into commercial vehicle annual safety certification requirements first.

Up here, heavy trailers can complicate your drivers license requirements, cost of license plates on your truck, and utility trailers require an annual "yellow sticker" inspection by a licensed mechanic.

 

[Lineman North Florida]

Check your drivers license to make sure your current license classification will accommodate the vehicles GVWR and look into commercial vehicle annual safety certification requirements first.

Up here, heavy trailers can complicate your drivers license requirements, cost of license plates on your truck, and utility trailers require an annual "yellow sticker" inspection by a licensed mechanic.

Thank's I have a commercial drivers license so that won't be an issue and a few of my friends have trailers and size and weight doesn't seem to make a difference down here.

 

[Diamondpilot]

You will never be able to use the extra capacity with your current truck. Personally I hate duals so I would just get the 14K trailer that most closely matches your trucks capacity.

Chris

 

[oliver1555]

235/75x17.5 tires are rated 6k each. With upgraded axles and 17.5 tires, you can have the capacity of duals, without the added hassle. Here is a link to PJ's site. Not an endorsement of anyone's trailer, but a look at what can be done.

PJ Trailers 17.5 in. Trailer Wheels and Tires

 

[RedNeckRacin]

Don't bother with the duals, I have a 5083e with beet juice in the tires, the loader and bucket and it really worked my 1 ton cummins hard in these pa hills on my 14.5k GN. So that's a pretty close machine to what you are handling. Keep the trailer lighter. The braking wasn't alot better but I never killed anyone with that rig. I see you are in Florida so you should be better off but you aren't going to be setting any speed records from a stop sign.

 

[Xfaxman]

I am getting real close to purchasing a new gooseneck trailer and wanted some advice/opinions, I want a 25' deck with a 5' dovetail, I will be pulling it with a 2015 3/4 ton Chevrolet 2500 HD with a 6.0 gas motor, the absolute heaviest thing that I will be hauling is a John Deere 5093e with a loader and loaded tires and a 7' bush hog mower but mostly a smaller tractor and mower. What I am most curious about is should I go with 2 7K single axles or 2 10K dual tire axles, the money is very little difference and it is quite a bit more hauling capacity with the dual 10k axles and even though I don't really need it I would have it just in case. Last question is my truck going to handle the dual tandem trailer without it being to much of a burden? I don't haul for a living just now and then 100 mile trip to my hunting/fishing camp, the rest will be round rolls of hay from the field to the barn. Charlie.

What size/weight round bales?

Here is our Delta 14K 18' deck with a 4' popup dovetail with over 11K of 5x6 bales.

More details on the trailer: http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/...d-up-slide-ramps-post3224882.html#post3224882

And: http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/...6068-hauling-10-5x6-round-hay.html?highlight=

 

[lutt]

I have fourteen on here at the time. If i put a piece of plywood over the ramps, I can haul eighteen double stacked like this. Trips were short and only hauled fifty bale this day. My next gooseneck will be dual wheels for stability. I live in the hills, when you double stack hay and get your center gravity up, some of the places I haul in and out of are little rough. Lol. It would help if I had random duals. Trailer is a 25 dovetail, made here local by the same people that build Shaver wood furnaces. They are plenty stout. I also run fourteen ply tires. LUTT

 

[Lineman North Florida]

235/75x17.5 tires are rated 6k each. With upgraded axles and 17.5 tires, you can have the capacity of duals, without the added hassle. Here is a link to PJ's site. Not an endorsement of anyone's trailer, but a look at what can be done.

PJ Trailers 17.5 in. Trailer Wheels and Tires

You have turned me on to something that I didn't even realize was an option, that's what I like about this site. I like the idea of the super single tires and not having to have the tandem duals to have the 20k capacity, I am doing some research on it and I hope to hear from someone who either has them or has direct knowledge about them.

 

[Deere Dude]

I have a 28' PJ gooseneck with 7k axles with load range E tires. I hauled many loads with 14k on the axles, and that trailer was full. I carried my JD3720 with loaded tires, FEL, Box blade, regular blade and a bunch of other stuff to get up to the 14k on the axles. I am not a big time hauler, just a guy that hauls trees for firewood and moving my stuff around occasionally. I can't imagine getting a tandem trailer for average joe blow needs. Think about replacing tires now and then even when not used. At $200 a pop, it adds up quickly.

 

[Xfaxman]

I have fourteen on here at the time. If i put a piece of plywood over the ramps, I can haul eighteen double stacked like this. Trips were short and only hauled fifty bale this day. My next gooseneck will be dual wheels for stability. I live in the hills, when you double stack hay and get your center gravity up, some of the places I haul in and out of are little rough. Lol. It would help if I had random duals. Trailer is a 25 dovetail, made here local by the same people that build Shaver wood furnaces. They are plenty stout. I also run fourteen ply tires. LUTT

They look like 4x5's, did you ever check the weight?

The heaviest load that I ever weighed was 12,640 on the deck, 3,440 ball, 14,200 axles, 24,940 total, 3/4T truck and trailer.

The trailer weighs 5,000 pounds, 1,000 on the ball, 4,000 on the axles.

 

[Lineman North Florida]

What size/weight round bales?

Here is our Delta 14K 18' deck with a 4' popup dovetail with over 11K of 5x6 bales.

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More details on the trailer: http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/...d-up-slide-ramps-post3224882.html#post3224882

And: http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/...6068-hauling-10-5x6-round-hay.html?highlight=

Ours are 4x5 round rolls weighing somewhere in the neighborhood of 900 to 1000lbs each, the hay field is about 400 yards down the road from my driveway so I won't be hauling very far, I know I don't really need the 20,000lb capacity trailer but I figure I am probably only going to buy one of these in my lifetime and I want to be sure I have plenty of capacity.

 

[Lineman North Florida]

I have fourteen on here at the time. If i put a piece of plywood over the ramps, I can haul eighteen double stacked like this. Trips were short and only hauled fifty bale this day. My next gooseneck will be dual wheels for stability. I live in the hills, when you double stack hay and get your center gravity up, some of the places I haul in and out of are little rough. Lol. It would help if I had random duals. Trailer is a 25 dovetail, made here local by the same people that build Shaver wood furnaces. They are plenty stout. I also run fourteen ply tires. LUTT

Is your truck a gas or a diesel?

 

[powerstroke444e]

I have a 25'+5' dove with 8k axles and use 235/85-16 14ply tires. I wouldn't want anything lighter, especially hauling hay I put about 300-400 small squares on it. I have been looking at hydraulic dove tail trailer and found these. Which look nice Custom Flatbed Trailer Gallery - featuring the Red Rhino and Flatbed Gooseneck Trailers by GoBob Pipe & Steel Sales, LLC - Flatbed Trailers and Goosneck Trailers they also have super singles which is route I am looking at.

 

[tcartwri]

You have turned me on to something that I didn't even realize was an option, that's what I like about this site. I like the idea of the super single tires and not having to have the tandem duals to have the 20k capacity, I am doing some research on it and I hope to hear from someone who either has them or has direct knowledge about them.

The big issue is availability if you have an issue on the road. I occasionally see the 17.5's on specialty applications. You would definitely want to carry a spare.

 

[Diamondpilot]

The big issue is availability if you have an issue on the road. I occasionally see the 17.5's on specialty applications. You would definitely want to carry a spare.

Exactly. You actually need 2 spares because I'd one blows you usually overload the other on that side and it goes in short order.

Even if it doesn't once the spare is on your now running with no spare. Not a big deal if only traveling locally but with odd size combination like that another tire may be days away via FedEx.

Been there done that.

Chris

 

[lutt]

My truck is a diesel, and yes these are 4x5 bales, I can haul the 5x6 bales also. I have never checked weight of it loaded, those are John Deere baler made and roughly run 800 pounds for Bermuda, and a 1000 for the peanut bales. LUTT

 

[oliver1555]

The big issue is availability if you have an issue on the road. I occasionally see the 17.5's on specialty applications. You would definitely want to carry a spare.

Don't you normally carry a spare? When I was still working, we ran these on trailers in the oilfield so we could dump the duals. Duals in mud are a pain because they fill up between the tires with rocks and mud. We never had a problem finding them, but can't say what the availability is in your area. I've seen many hot shot trailers with them.

 

[oliver1555]

Exactly. You actually need 2 spares because I'd one blows you usually overload the other on that side and it goes in short order.

Even if it doesn't once the spare is on your now running with no spare. Not a big deal if only traveling locally but with odd size combination like that another tire may be days away via FedEx.

Been there done that.

Chris

Blowing one tire on single wheel tandems does not put more load on the surviving tire, as is the case for duals. Many trailers in the oil patch run 17.5 tires so they don't have to deal with the hassle of mud and rocks between the duals. Many hotshot outfits are running them, as well. When I was still working, I never saw a problem obtaining them, but supplies in your area may be different.

 

[BobG_in_VA]

+1 for a Delta...I've got a 24ft GN (14K) with the dove tail that flips up flat AND the 8x8ft flat on top of the GN. Great trailer. Trailer weighs 4500lbs. I pull it with a '99 F350 with the 7.3L diesel. Good set up. BobG in VA