Buying Advice Help with Tractor purchase - newbie

[TripleR]

We run the one on our M8540 from a rear remote and L5740 from a third function. We are considering on going with a diverter kit from Ken's as we miss the rear remote when using our grapple and HR3584.

 

[Poopdeck Pappy]

I run my stump grapple from the rear remote. It would be handy to have a true third function to run everything from the loader joystick, but using one of the rear remotes doesn't slow me down much and was MUCH cheaper.

That Gannon box blade is a real beast. I bought a used 6 foot one for $1100, put about $150 into rebuilding the hydraulic cylinder, and about $100 in hoses (from NAPA, which is when I figured out how proud NAPA is of their hydraulic hoses), and it works great. Not real pretty, but works as good as a new one for about 1/3 of the cost of a brand new one.

 

[MtnViewRanch]

I run my stump grapple from the rear remote. It would be handy to have a true third function to run everything from the loader joystick, but using one of the rear remotes doesn't slow me down much and was MUCH cheaper.

That Gannon box blade is a real beast. I bought a used 6 foot one for $1100, put about $150 into rebuilding the hydraulic cylinder, and about $100 in hoses (from NAPA, which is when I figured out how proud NAPA is of their hydraulic hoses), and it works great. Not real pretty, but works as good as a new one for about 1/3 of the cost of a brand new one.

Ya know, that Gannon sure would look good painted either black or Kioti Orange. Then all you need is a "T&T" set and you'll be in grading heaven. :cool2:

 

[kminnick]

So my sales guy was on a trip as we were working this out and he did not put a hold on the Gannon and it sold before money changed hands with me (although we had a verbal). And, the 1884 Landpride rotary cutter was really a 1872. Sigh. So, he sold me a new Gearmore 2G2 (hydraulic rippers) for $400 under his cost because the messed this up (really, almost lost them my business).

 

[kminnick]

I received my tractor a while back so now it's time to post some pictures. I ended up with the TN75A with a 2G2 Gearmore hydraulic box blade, a Landpride 72" rotary cutter, a heavy duty bucket (SSQA), pallet forks and a 72" grapple.

 

[kminnick]

I have a couple of questions (don't laugh...).

1. Do I need to shut off the tractor to hook up the quick connect hydraulics? That's what I've been doing.
2. Is there an easy way to release the QA hydraulics? It appears that I can press in on the outer ring and release the male end from the coupling.
3. The 'tilt' is mounted on the rear, but not a 'top'. I have several cylinders that came with this. Would it be wise/useful to mount the 'Top'? (I have 3 rear remotes, one of which hooks to the grapple when it is mounted).
4. I assume the hydraulics/rear end fluid is all part of one system? Does this include the power shuttle? (manual is a little vague on all this)
5. What hydraulic fluid is best?
6. What grease should I use for the pins on the loader/grapple?

Thanks. Take care,

 

[k0ua]

I have a couple of questions (don't laugh...).

1. Do I need to shut off the tractor to hook up the quick connect hydraulics? That's what I've been doing.YES
2. Is there an easy way to release the QA hydraulics?Not really It appears that I can press in on the outer ring and release the male end from the coupling.YEP
3. The 'tilt' is mounted on the rear, but not a 'top'. I have several cylinders that came with this. Would it be wise/useful to mount the 'Top'? (I have 3 rear remotes, one of which hooks to the grapple when it is mounted).Yes
4. I assume the hydraulics/rear end fluid is all part of one system? Does this include the power shuttle? (manual is a little vague on all this)Yes, all one sump. of course front axle fluid is not part of the sump
5. What hydraulic fluid is best?The one/ones your manual specify's is a safe bet
6. What grease should I use for the pins on the loader/grapple?It is not critical. Some people like grease with Moly in it, but I dont think it matters near as much as to what type you use as long as you use grease, and plenty of it

Thanks. Take care,

See my answers above. If you need more clarification, let us know. Happy tractoring.

 

[varmint]

James, you did a nice job of answering the poster's questions, direct and to the point. Helps make this a great forum!

 

[Citydude]

I have a couple of questions (don't laugh...). 1. Do I need to shut off the tractor to hook up the quick connect hydraulics? That's what I've been doing. 2. Is there an easy way to release the QA hydraulics? It appears that I can press in on the outer ring and release the male end from the coupling. 3. The 'tilt' is mounted on the rear, but not a 'top'. I have several cylinders that came with this. Would it be wise/useful to mount the 'Top'? (I have 3 rear remotes, one of which hooks to the grapple when it is mounted). 4. I assume the hydraulics/rear end fluid is all part of one system? Does this include the power shuttle? (manual is a little vague on all this) 5. What hydraulic fluid is best? 6. What grease should I use for the pins on the loader/grapple? Thanks. Take care,

Congrats! Nice looking tractor.

 

[kminnick]

Thanks James!

 

[kminnick]

See my answers above. If you need more clarification, let us know. Happy tractoring.

On #2. Do you just keep a screwdriver around to release the coupling? Seems like you almost need a large toolbox on the tractor to keep pins, chain, wrenches/drivers, grease... Others?

 

[Poopdeck Pappy]

On #2. Do you just keep a screwdriver around to release the coupling? Seems like you almost need a large toolbox on the tractor to keep pins, chain, wrenches/drivers, grease... Others?

No, you don't need a screwdriver (or any tools) to disconnect the hydraulic quick couplers. When you kill the tractor, move the loader lever and the rear remote levers around to release the pressure on the system. Then you just push in the collar on the female connector and pull on the male connector to disconnect.

My DK50SE has a toolbox behind the step (below the floor of the cab). I keep a dead blow hammer in it (for hooking up 3 point implements that need a little encouragement) and a crescent wrench (to use on the top link nut).

 

[k0ua]

As Pappy said, you should not need any tools to disconnect. Just make sure the pressure is bled down like he suggested. Of course keeping tools on board is never a bad idea for other things..

 

[kminnick]

No, you don't need a screwdriver (or any tools) to disconnect the hydraulic quick couplers. When you kill the tractor, move the loader lever and the rear remote levers around to release the pressure on the system. Then you just push in the collar on the female connector and pull on the male connector to disconnect.

My DK50SE has a toolbox behind the step (below the floor of the cab). I keep a dead blow hammer in it (for hooking up 3 point implements that need a little encouragement) and a crescent wrench (to use on the top link nut).

Hey Pappy. My rear remotes don't have any visible collar. They have a spring-loaded protective cover, but I don't see a collar like on a typical female quick connect. Is the NH unique, or am I totally missing something? Thanks,

 

[TomSeller]

I received my tractor a while back so now it's time to post some pictures. I ended up with the TN75A with a 2G2 Gearmore hydraulic box blade, a Landpride 72" rotary cutter, a heavy duty bucket (SSQA), pallet forks and a 72" grapple.

Super nice set up you have there. Please post more pictures if you get the chance. Very nice.

 

[k0ua]

Hey Pappy. My rear remotes don't have any visible collar. They have a spring-loaded protective cover, but I don't see a collar like on a typical female quick connect. Is the NH unique, or am I totally missing something? Thanks,
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Some of them are push/pull breakaway connectors. Perhaps yours are that way?

 

[MtnViewRanch]

Hey Pappy. My rear remotes don't have any visible collar. They have a spring-loaded protective cover, but I don't see a collar like on a typical female quick connect. Is the NH unique, or am I totally missing something? Thanks,
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Yes you have push-pull couplers. For disconnecting, you push in and then pull out all in one quick motion. For connecting, just push the male end in. No outer sleeves to fool with. If you forget to disconnect from an implement, the hoses will disconnect on their own and no damage should be done to either end.

You have a nice rig there. :thumbsup:

 

[kminnick]

Yes you have push-pull couplers. For disconnecting, you push in and then pull out all in one quick motion. For connecting, just push the male end in. No outer sleeves to fool with. If you forget to disconnect from an implement, the hoses will disconnect on their own and no damage should be done to either end.

You have a nice rig there. :thumbsup:

Wow. Never heard of such a thing. Learn something new every day (especially on this list)! Thanks guys for the great info.

So, one more question. I've heard that some of the rear remotes have a float position/option. How would I know if I have that, and which one of the remotes would have it? I assume it's a mechanical valve and would be different from the others? I guess I need a description of what 'Float' does for me too. Take care,

 

[MtnViewRanch]

The control lever will act just as your loader joystick acts, push the lever forward and then just as the loader lever sort of goes just a bit further and locks in place, that is the same as the rear remote with the float function will act. In any other position it will simply spring back to the center in the closed position.

A std control valve will have 3 separate positions, A control valve with the float function will have 4 separate positions, typically the float position is all the way forward in the detent position.

As far as what you would use it for, I need to write a book about the uses, but a couple would be for use with the top & tilt cylinders. Don't be surprised if you do not have the feature, but then again with New Holland it would be no surprise if you had 1 or more with the float feature.

Check it out and let us know.

 

[jenkinsph]

That is a nice tractor with a good selection of implements. You should get some work done with a smile on your face.