XR4040H loader+ pallet fork lift test - would like comments from LS

hitecredneck1 · Aug 22, 2014

Using a skid steer pallet fork (no bucket) and wood pallet I was only able to lift ~31 bags of pool salt (40 lbs each) ~6 inches off the ground. Loader pressures etc. have been checked by dealer. Looks like ~1500 lbs (salt + pallet forks) is what the LS xr4040h will do in a real world test. Would like comments from LS.

George2615 · Aug 22, 2014

The 31 bags X 40# = 1240lbs. leaving only 260 lbs for the forks and pallet. I think the forks and pallet weigh a little more than that.
XR4040 lift cap is 2500 at the pins. Even if your forks and pallet weighed 500 lbs. that's still only 1740 lb. which it should lift with ease.
I'd have the dealer double check the pressure relief setting. Seems low to me.

J_J · Aug 22, 2014

Did you tilt the load back over the pins?

Definitely check the relief setting..

hitecredneck1 · Aug 22, 2014

J_J said:
Did you tilt the load back over the pins?

Definitely check the relief setting..

ALL settings checked twice by dealer. pallet and salt was as far back toward the tractor on forks as they can go.

hitecredneck1 · Aug 23, 2014

Per LS today, 1500 is what to expect. Buyer Beware.

George2615 · Aug 23, 2014

How often does one lift at the pivot pin, the load is always out in front of the pins and rarely tilted back over the pins, especially when using forks. About the only time the load would be over the pins is during loader work when you tilt back the bucket.
All Tractor manufacturers should publish real world lift capacities and not just lift capacities at the pins. It's misleading to the consumer.

jaydee325 · Aug 23, 2014

LS is no worse than any other manufacturer concerning advertised loader lift capacity. Everyone lists at the pin. This is a value that can be compared to others.

Some manufacturers go further in their literature and provide lift capacities at various lengths from the pin. Those that I have seen show a significant drop off in weight the further out you get (dang physics!). I also feel that published lift capacities at various distances from the pin cannot be compared from one to another manufacturer because you don't know if the test procedures are the same.

Misleading? Possibly. Buyer beware, I don't agree.

Bob

breadtrk · Aug 23, 2014

My XR3037 picked up the corner of the old house when I was trying to move dirt from the foundation for demolition. Don't know how much that weighs but pretty sure LS didn't factor that in......I sort of wished I had a grapple to put in the 3 dumpsters, but the 5 guys from in front of the Home Depot did a fine job of that.

At one point I was just putting the bucket chest high and plowing into the frame till stuff bounced off the glass. I kinda liked it.

The HD guys turned out to be a really good group, we cooked out and they taught me a few things about grilling!

hitecredneck1 · Aug 24, 2014

In my opinion, the tractor I had from 1992 to 2014 (Kubota l4310 hst) with loader (1500 lbs at the pin) was stronger then the xr4040h loader which is rated at 2500 lb at the pin. I expected more capability based on the spec #'s.

TSO · Aug 28, 2014

I lifted much more than that With my R4047 & forks. I believe it was 51 40lb bags of salt, up to about 4 ft high. Another member just did a pallet fork test also and his was also higher.

Either your math (or weight info) is wrong, or something is wrong with the loader.

http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums//showthread.php?t=297621

GManBart · Aug 28, 2014

I lifted many items much heavier than that with my 4047. Heck, it lifted a 1,300lb block of steel (weighed as such) on the pallet forks with zero counterweight...add counterweight, and it toyed with stuff in the 1,500lb range.

k0ua · Aug 28, 2014

One way to know for sure, get your own pressure tester. Not much money, not hard to make.

3000 PSI 2.5" LF LM GAUGE

hitecredneck1 · Sep 3, 2014

The bags are clearly marked SALT 40lbs! Pallet forks weight? Have not lifted the salt on the 3 point. Moving that many bags again is rough on my back.

TractShackTimmons · Sep 8, 2014

I have tested a R4041 on my lot many of times and with 2,000 pounds of cement blocks on a pallet with the tires filled it did lift it over 4ft off the ground. Honestly i think the system psi on the tractor is not set right. I know you had your dealer check the pressure but i would say check the pressure yourself. LS tells me that the psi from factory is around 2200-2300 psi which i have been bumping some of them up to around 2600. With the weight you are lifting with that XR it should lift it even if it was on a pallet and on your forks. I have an XR4040 on my lot right now and i will test it as soon as i can and post the results.

hitecredneck1 · Dec 1, 2014

I tested the pressure 2200 psi

hitecredneck1 · May 11, 2015

latest test was 1/2 pallet of salt w/forks 1120lbs.

TSO · May 11, 2015

hitecredneck1 said:
I tested the pressure 2200 psi

Shouldn't it be somewhere around 2500psi?

gphil12873 · May 11, 2015

I have one of those plastic tanks with the cage around it. 275 gallons is what it will hold. I have 4000 pound Terra Force 48" forks. They weigh 400lbs just the forks. not sure what the tank thing weighs. i would say 100 lbs or less. I put 200 gallons of water in it and my Xr4046 picks it up pretty easy. How high I dont know but I know it will pick it up 3 or 4 feet. I figure this weight about 2160 lbs. I am gonna keep putting water in it to it no longer will pick it up and should be able to get a pretty dang close figure of what mine will and will not pick up.

TSO · May 11, 2015

gphil12873 said:
I have one of those plastic tanks with the cage around it. 275 gallons is what it will hold. I have 4000 pound Terra Force 48" forks. They weigh 400lbs just the forks. not sure what the tank thing weighs. i would say 100 lbs or less. I put 200 gallons of water in it and my Xr4046 picks it up pretty easy. How high I dont know but I know it will pick it up 3 or 4 feet. I figure this weight about 2160 lbs. I am gonna keep putting water in it to it no longer will pick it up and should be able to get a pretty dang close figure of what mine will and will not pick up.

How are you measuring gallons accurately

GManBart · May 11, 2015

hitecredneck1 said:
latest test was 1/2 pallet of salt w/forks 1120lbs.

Something is very wrong. That loader should toy with 1,100lbs like it's not even there. Here's mine lifting approximately 2,000lbs of concrete forms. Each form had a sheet of 3/4" plywood at 60lbs each, and 6 2x4x8s per form at 13lbs each for 78lbs per form...total of 138lbs per form.

15 forms x 118lbs = 2,070lbs.