XR4040H loader+ pallet fork lift test - would like comments from LS

   / XR4040H loader+ pallet fork lift test - would like comments from LS #21  
If your pressures are to spec, you could have some bypass in the loader valve while the spool is in use, where some of the oil is going to tank. We had a similar issue on a different brand where pressures were proper to the valve but 100 psi short past the valve. Yet the loader did not leak down when the spool was centered. We changed valves and gained measured lift capacity. A rare thing, but a possibility. A 2500 lb capacity loader at the pins ought to lift close to a ton on a pallet if stacked compactly.

They rate at the pins because that is the biggest number and everyone does it. Their justification is partly that when you have a full bucket and curl it back and raise it a couple of feet, you essentially have the load centered over the pins. Therefor it is a real number. Sort of makes sense, but still optimistic. The spec ought to include the weight of the bucket. If a bucket weighs 200 lbs, it ought to still lift to spec with the standard bucket attached. But if the forks weigh 300 lbs, you would expect a 100 lb loss of capacity, plus the leverage issues which are substantial.

I tell people that a big tractor can lift about as much as a tiny forklift.
 
   / XR4040H loader+ pallet fork lift test - would like comments from LS #22  
I have one of those plastic tanks with the cage around it. 275 gallons is what it will hold. I have 4000 pound Terra Force 48" forks. They weigh 400lbs just the forks. not sure what the tank thing weighs. i would say 100 lbs or less. I put 200 gallons of water in it and my Xr4046 picks it up pretty easy. How high I dont know but I know it will pick it up 3 or 4 feet. I figure this weight about 2160 lbs. I am gonna keep putting water in it to it no longer will pick it up and should be able to get a pretty dang close figure of what mine will and will not pick up.

The number I've seen listed for 275gal IBC totes is around 125lbs empty (been looking because I need a couple).
 
   / XR4040H loader+ pallet fork lift test - would like comments from LS #23  
How are you measuring gallons accurately

Well How accurate I dont know. Its marked for every 50 gallons I believe. SO I would guess I would be close enough for me to know. Right now it dead even on 200 gallons on a level concrete pad. Give or take a few gallons im sure. But for me to get out there with a measuring device to get it dead nuts.....naa
 
   / XR4040H loader+ pallet fork lift test - would like comments from LS #24  
Well How accurate I dont know. Its marked for every 50 gallons I believe. SO I would guess I would be close enough for me to know. Right now it dead even on 200 gallons on a level concrete pad. Give or take a few gallons im sure. But for me to get out there with a measuring device to get it dead nuts.....naa

Ah ok... Makes sense, just didn't know how it was marked. I'm seeing a standard weight of 8.34 pounds per gallon for water, is that how you are measuring?
 
   / XR4040H loader+ pallet fork lift test - would like comments from LS #25  
Ah ok... Makes sense, just didn't know how it was marked. I'm seeing a standard weight of 8.34 pounds per gallon for water, is that how you are measuring?

Yes Sir..Thats pretty much what I did.
 
   / XR4040H loader+ pallet fork lift test - would like comments from LS #26  
The tote idea is pretty good to get a real close measurement. I like it.
 
   / XR4040H loader+ pallet fork lift test - would like comments from LS #27  
The tote idea is pretty good to get a real close measurement. I like it.

Yeah, and less physical labor than my method too! (40# bags of salt on a pallet). Plus, easier to contain, and to ensure "fair" balance of the weight.
 
   / XR4040H loader+ pallet fork lift test - would like comments from LS #28  
Yea I thought it would be less labor intensive as well...lol. Im sure if you wanted to be really accurate with it you could always get to where the tractor wouldnt lift it. Drain the water out to the nearest marked gallons and then fill 5 gallon buckets and put on the top so you would be more exact. Or gallon jugs. But Im not gonna go through all that. It funny I was talking about it yesterday. On my way home from work I saw a truck hauling 4 of these things on a trailer and 1 in the bed all full of something and I was like now thats a load.
 
   / XR4040H loader+ pallet fork lift test - would like comments from LS #29  
Yea I thought it would be less labor intensive as well...lol. Im sure if you wanted to be really accurate with it you could always get to where the tractor wouldnt lift it. Drain the water out to the nearest marked gallons and then fill 5 gallon buckets and put on the top so you would be more exact. Or gallon jugs. But Im not gonna go through all that. It funny I was talking about it yesterday. On my way home from work I saw a truck hauling 4 of these things on a trailer and 1 in the bed all full of something and I was like now thats a load.

Yeah, there's a local dummy who puts a 275gal IBC tote in the back of his Ford Ranger and uses it to haul water....the bed is almost on the tires when he does that!
 
   / XR4040H loader+ pallet fork lift test - would like comments from LS
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I've been thru the dealer and thru LS (Harvey Brock) with no resolution. I challenge LS again to take this tractor back..
 
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