My NX6010

[RDrancher]

I must say that this is the most entertaining thread going. Man...the CARNAGE!

 

[countrybumpkin]

Are the threads on the quick connect not BSPP ? If so just get a Bspp male to 1/2 npt and use a standard pioneer quick connect. That way if you have any problems with them later you can purchase them just about any farm store.

 

[Threepoint]

I had to do some fitting of the 3" tilting cylinder that I got from MIE. By eyeball (and that's all you can do), it looked like the lower clevis hole was the same length at the longest (or bottom) clevis hole on the fixed link (18.5"), but when mounted, the three point sagged on the right side even when the ram was fully retracted. As a result, I drilled a new hole at an eyeballed 17" and used the fixed link's middle hole which measures 17.5" center to center. With this change, my three point was level when fully collapsed. My thinking is that hydraulic side links may all require a little fitting. Buy a 3/4" drill bit.

[snip]

I haven't ordered my hydraulic sidelink yet, but when I do, I may be facing the same issue. Rather than redrill the clevis to better match the fixed, left-hand sidelink, couldn't you just replace the fixed link with the OEM adjustable link that you removed? Then make the one-time leveling adjustment on that side?

Great review of the Frontier BB.

 

[MinnesotaEric]

I haven't ordered my hydraulic sidelink yet, but when I do, I may be facing the same issue. Rather than redrill the clevis to better match the fixed, left-hand sidelink, couldn't you just replace the fixed link with the OEM adjustable link that you removed? Then make the one-time leveling adjustment on that side?

Great review of the Frontier BB.

As you suggest would be easiest, but the new tilting ram uses the factory adjustable link's longer top clevis pin. Since I was in the field, and Kioti uses a weird, metric pin size, I didn't have access to another longer pin I needed to transfer the factory adjustable link to the right side unless I patiently turned a larger pin down using a grinding wheel (it's all I have there). For me it was easier to drill a new hole. Moreover, the new hole allows me to lift whatever is attached on the three point just a little higher, a benefit I like considering the terrain I'm encountering.

 

[MinnesotaEric]

Are the threads on the quick connect not BSPP ? If so just get a Bspp male to 1/2 npt and use a standard pioneer quick connect. That way if you have any problems with them later you can purchase them just about any farm store.

Offhand, I thought they were German metric, but you may be right, they may be BSPP. My local Fleet didn't have what I needed and so I went to a hydraulic fittings jobber. I didn't think of using an adaptor, but that isn't a bad idea.

Another of my neighbor's signs.

 

[Threepoint]

As you suggest would be easiest, but the new tilting ram uses the factory adjustable link's longer top clevis pin. Since I was in the field, and Kioti uses a weird, metric pin size, I didn't have access to another longer pin I needed to transfer the factory adjustable link to the right side unless I patiently turned a larger pin down using a grinding wheel (it's all I have there). For me it was easier to drill a new hole. Moreover, the new hole allows me to lift whatever is attached on the three point just a little higher, a benefit I like considering the terrain I'm encountering.[snip]

Ahh, o.k. Out of curiosity, I just went out and checked the lengths of the top left and right clevis pins for the factory sidelinks on my NX4510 and fortunately they are both the same, 75 mm (nominally 2-15/16"). So I should be able to use either one for the hydr. link and switch the adjustable link to the left side without that complication. I know the lift arms and lower link arms on your NX6010 are set up differently than on my NX4510 since they handle Cat 2.

Are you happy so far with the DIY check valve assembly that you made up for the MIE sidelink? I'll probably go the same route, regardless of which vendor I use, unless I can find a vendor that will supply one with the cylinder. Is there anything you'd do differently in putting it together? The standoffs that you used look like they put the check valve further away from the cylinder than I'd prefer, but I gather they don't create any new clearance issues or make the connections less stable.

 

[Threepoint]

Eric, further on the check valve issue, I just talked to Bob Piro at MIE about ordering up a hydraulic side link ram (2-1/2" cylinder is all I think I'll need) for my NX4510HST. Told him I would be adding a double-piloted lock valve to whatever I got, and he surprised me by saying he could go ahead and add one for me for another $80. Seems like a good way to go, with very reasonable pricing, unless I'm missing something. Did you perhaps already have your check valve components when you ordered your ram?

 

[MinnesotaEric]

Eric, further on the check valve issue, I just talked to Bob Piro at MIE about ordering up a hydraulic side link ram (2-1/2" cylinder is all I think I'll need) for my NX4510HST. Told him I would be adding a double-piloted lock valve to whatever I got, and he surprised me by saying he could go ahead and add one for me for another $80. Seems like a good way to go, with very reasonable pricing, unless I'm missing something. Did you perhaps already have your check valve components when you ordered your ram?

I'm happy with it so far. If you look at my Frontier BB review video, I've got a hydraulic leak on the upper compression fitting apparently from not tightening everything up enough in the field (I left the 1-1/4" wrench I need to hold the check valve body at home and I try to not automatically tighten everything stupid tight to avoid over-torquing stuff).

At any-rate, I asked Bob about check/locking valves when I ordered, and he stated that they didn't offer the feature. But people are quick to offer what others are willing to pay for, and I know this thread alone will drive them sales. All to say that $80 bucks for a double-acting pilot-pressure controlled check valve is a good deal. The only downside from my use comes from running my rotary cutter knocking down stands of aspen and the chance that a random stump will get into there and bash it.

On the other hand, my rotary cutter and tractor started earning some money clearing a section of lake shore a couple of weeks ago.

Here is the photo EA should share with anybody who asks how strong their wicked root grapple is!

 

[IslandTractor]

I'm happy with it so far. If you look at my Frontier BB review video, I've got a hydraulic leak on the upper compression fitting apparently from not tightening everything up enough in the field (I left the 1-1/4" wrench I need to hold the check valve body at home and try I to not automatically tighten everything stupid tight to avoid over-torquing stuff). At any-rate, I asked Bob about check/locking valves when I ordered, and he stated that they didn't offer the feature. But people are quick to offer what others are willing to pay for, and I know this thread alone will drive them sales. All to say that $80 bucks for a double-acting pilot-pressure controlled check valve is a good deal. The only downside from my use comes from running my rotary cutter knocking down stands of aspen and the chance that a random stump will get into there and bash it. On the other hand, my rotary cutter and tractor started earning some money clearing a section of lake shore a couple of weeks ago. Here is the photo EA should share with anybody asking how strong their wicked root grapple is!

I still don't get why you guys are so gaga about check valves. You'd think that a dealer line MIE would make them standard if they were so important.

 

[Threepoint]

Yep, looks like MIE has concluded the demand is strong enough to justify offering the check valve as an option. I placed my order this afternoon, so the ram should ship in about 2 weeks. A very short lead time during a very busy season for something they have to make up, IMO. They are including the two hydraulic hoses with male QD ends, plus a sock for the hoses for a tidy installation. I've heard good things about MIE on this board. They've been selling quite a few of the Kioti NX tractors, so I shouldn't have to worry about everything fitting, as long as the shop makes sure it's for an NX4510 and not an NX6010.