Is this legit?

[BigRol]

https://www.nurvilsquareconsignment.com/inventory/s553212/
is this legitimate or a scam, 90 hrs, like new and delivered (over 450 miles) for 7400 CDN.
I have never heard of Nurvil square consignment. the add originated on Kijiji.
thanks

 

[davesl708]

The price seems low for the package. Smells funny.

If they want money up front I would recommend PayPal. or other escrow type payment so if not delivered you do not pay.

 

[TJP89]

The price is low, but it seems to be more legit than some others I've seen. It's an older BX, the guy may want to get rid of it and doesn't know the real value. I'd talk to the seller, from there it should be clearer if its a scam or not. The delivered part is what seems off to me, so definitely be careful.

 

[LD1]

It dont read like a scam. Scammers dont take the time to give all the detail, many photos, and proper grammar/punctuation.

Price isnt that far off. See alot of them for 8-10k. But those are ~1000hr machines. So the hours is whats a little off. Only 82 hrs in 13 years?

The consignment company seems legit. Perhaps give them a call?

 

[davesl708]

I just did a search for Nurvil Square Consignment. Came up with nothing.

 

[dusty3030]

You'd sell something using a consignment service to get more for it, not less.
Generally the consignment company wants more for an item - more it sells for = higher commission.

I wouldn't give a dollar without setting hands on it and (don't know how it works in Canada as far as lien search) verifying there wasn't a lien on it.

If it is a smoking deal and has been for sale more than a week it is probably a scam or something is bad wrong. Lots of folks make a living buying and selling equipment and a great deal that is well advertised won't be there for long.

 

[BigRol]

Well got the second email, but the owner wouldn't provide phone # or address, which I guess is reasonable. nurvil's reputation is spotless however you must sign up to get any real info, by signing up you enter into a contact to buy the item although you have 7 days to back out. They welcomed me to come see and check out the machine and their facilities, wish I had some spare time. It's a massive consignment dealership that started in the UK then Miami and acoss the U.S. and is now in Canada. Couldn't find a bad word about them. But I still can't pull the trigger without seeing it. Anybody near Edmunston NB looking for a BX? or at least check the place out, Thanks for the info guys.

 

[BigRol]

Sorry, I was wrong.Registring only requires that IF you buy you adhere to the policies.

 

[Sysop]

I just did a search for Nurvil Square Consignment. Came up with nothing.

Couldn't find a bad word about them.

There is a reason for that. The domain hasn't existed long enough to get included in any search results.

Domain Name: NURVILSQUARECONSIGNMENT.COM
Registrar: TODAYNIC.COM, INC.
Sponsoring Registrar IANA ID: 697
Whois Server: whois.todaynic.com
Referral URL:www .NOW.CN
Name Server: NS1.NURVILSQUARECONSIGNMENT.COM
Name Server: NS2.NURVILSQUARECONSIGNMENT.COM
Status: clientTransferProhibited http://www.icann.org/epp#clientTransferProhibited
Updated Date: 26-apr-2015
Creation Date: 26-apr-2015
Expiration Date: 26-apr-2016

Before the 26th of April 2015 (four days ago) that site NEVER existed... I wouldn't even provide them with my name... I call it a scam (a very well done scam). The referral url is some site out of China...

BigRol, what makes you think this company is so "massive" with all these locations? Are you just going by what someone told you on the phone? There is no listing or address anywhere around the Miami area for a NURVIL anything...

 

[dusty3030]

There is a reason for that. The domain hasn't existed long enough to get included in any search results.

Domain Name: NURVILSQUARECONSIGNMENT.COM
Registrar: TODAYNIC.COM, INC.
Sponsoring Registrar IANA ID: 697
Whois Server: whois.todaynic.com
Referral URL:www .NOW.CN
Name Server: NS1.NURVILSQUARECONSIGNMENT.COM
Name Server: NS2.NURVILSQUARECONSIGNMENT.COM
Status: clientTransferProhibited http://www.icann.org/epp#clientTransferProhibited
Updated Date: 26-apr-2015
Creation Date: 26-apr-2015
Expiration Date: 26-apr-2016

Before the 26th of April 2015 (four days ago) that site NEVER existed... I wouldn't even provide them with my name... I call it a scam (a very well done scam). The referral url is some site out of China...

BigRol, what makes you think this company is so "massive" with all these locations? Are you just going by what someone told you on the phone? There is no listing or address anywhere around the Miami area for a NURVIL anything...

That is a well done scam at that!

 

[McREBEL]

Good detective work Sysop. The scammers may have stepped up their game a little.

 

[BigRol]

Great work Sysop! I was going by the dozens of testimonials (which are just words on a sreen) from the different locations. I trusted the little hairs that stood up on the back of my neck, works every time. Also just found similar type adds on kijiji, all taken down within 30 minutes. But what a pile of work they they did,wonder whats at that address? Guess I'll keep scraping up the coin for a new one
thanks again

 

[BigRol]

Great work Sysop! I was going by the dozens of testimonials (which are just words on a sreen) from the different locations. I trusted the little hairs that stood up on the back of my neck, works every time. Also just found similar type adds on kijiji, all taken down within 30 minutes. But what a pile of work they they did,wonder whats at that address? Guess I'll keep scraping up the coin for a new one
thanks again

 

[Baby Grand]

Sysop delivers.

<snip>
But what a pile of work they they did,wonder whats at that address?
<snip>

A mine field or worse.
Don't go there.

 

[Sysop]

Those testimonials are one of the "clues"... Note you cannot copy/paste anything, that is a method used to prevent you from investigating. If they are truly the owners of the data, locking down copy/paste doesn't do that much and is a silly method of copy protection. Type (exactly) a unique sentence out of any of the testimonials into a search engine and you'll find those testimonials are from elsewhere. i.e. the first shown on the NSC/scammer site was a first time online buyer arriving in a taxi to see a F-150 he made a deposit on.

Anytime I scroll through testimonials and every single one has mentioned a name like Nurvil Square Consignments, some repeatedly, and not one has it misspelled or shortened to Nurvil or NSC or something makes me think someone took those from elsewhere and simply ran a "find and replace" function. There are a lot of things these losers do to minimize the work involved in setting up scammer sites like that.

 

[McREBEL]

I just flagged an obvious BX scam on Craigslist. $1499. I am not sure how many flags it takes but apparently I wasn't the first because it disappeared immediately after I flagged it. Man that feels good. I highly recommend it. Obvious scams only of course.

 

[crazyal]

I'm not so sure they are a scam. If you spend a little time looking around you can find other forums where people talk about buying from them. You can usually spot those who just create a fake account vs the real forum users and there are plenty of posts from people that have been members for years with high post counts that said they've bought from them. If you go to the locations page and then use google earth view you can see that the places they list are large warehouse/ parking lot locations. I couldn't see any signs for the company at any locations, not a positive, but most were several years old and were for rent. If they aren't an old company then the pictures could have been taken before they rented them. But the biggest reason why I don't think it's a scam is because they say that you can come and inspect the vehicle before you buy it (or even put a deposit on it).

For it to be a scam it would cost a fortune. You would need to rent the location. You would need to buy or steal the vehicle so you could have it on site. You would need to have lots of other pieces to make it look like a real business. You would then need to be at that location to allow people to view the vehicle (hard to do if you are a scammer in Nigeria). Nothing is fool proof but if I was interested I would go take a look, copy the serial number, and then ask if I could just buy it with cash and take it home with me. I would run a check on the S/N to make sure it wasn't stolen.

As for the testimonials using the full company name. Who knows. It's on their website under their control. They could have changed any shorten name to the full name. I don't think it's uncommon to just copy other reviews and place them on your site, not ethical but when are used car salesmen? Here's a couple of forums that have posts about them, what do you think?

The Samba: View topic - Really dicey - Nurvil Square Consignment | www.nurvilsquareconsignment.com bus deal
DMCTalk.org Topic: Has anyone heard of Nurvil Square Consignment - nurvilsquareconsignment.com ?

I wouldn't be trusting and just send money but I would be willing to go for a drive if it was close (they have a location in Framingham Mass that isn't too far from me).

 

[Sysop]

I'd personally avoid both those forums. Both are in India, and neither have a dedicated domain name (one is on bdrbuildcon .com and the other is on chhotalal .com). The fact a simple whois shows the URL nurvilsquareconsignment.com did not exist before 4 days ago would make me refuse to give any personal information. If I were interested enough to buy, I'd be interested enough to investigate completely. There are many companies that don't have much of an online profile. Unless you are willing to take the time to go to their location to ensure it's not a scam, it's not worth giving them any information. Better safe than sorry IHMO.

 

[davesl708]

One thing to keep in mind. A new software program is available for business to use that scans the reviews and finds the negatives and replaces them with positive reviews. Scammers can do the same thing and generate hundreds of reviews from other sites and put their name in.

Also, the IP address for this site is Moscow. Russia. Nothing more needs said about the validity.

 

[crazyal]

Curiosity is why I would like to know more. If this is a scam it's a very well thought out costly one. Most scammers are just looking for the people who don't do any investigation at all and send money. It would be nice to know if it is. Someday I could be in the market to buy a used car or tractor and if scammers are going to this much work then I would like to know.