Box Scraper Beginners guide to using a box blade

   / Beginners guide to using a box blade #161  
Yeah, I was definitely out of place in the city, LA area; but not so much down here in the country side. Now I have only two neighbors on my road, no traffic jams, smog, or people telling you what you can't do. I got 25 acres, but I can't farm it as water cost is the killer; 4 times higher than my old house. No matter, I finally got the shop space of my dreams, a 5,000 sq ft insulated steel building, for my machine, fabrication and welding shop.
Jenkins, that's some beautiful work; that green drag is the business; I was thinking of building something like that. I don't really need grades that nice though; couldn't do that here any way, since there is not 10 sq feet outside of my shop slab, that is close to level. I live on the side of a hill, all 25 acres and about half of that is granite boulders as big as a house and too steep to even walk on. It tapers out on parts of the bottom end, but still plenty of slopes over 25 degrees, where a tractor can't go. The place was neglected for about 8 years, after the San Diego fires came through, and the roads are just passable with 4wd due to run-off erosion and mud bogs when it rains. If I can get those filled in and possibly re-crowned, I should be done with it for the rest of my days. I Shot or trapped out most of the ground squirrels already, (about a hundred), and talked my neighbors into doing the same, so I can flatten/fill the hundreds of burrows, before I step in one and break my neck; Without the squirrels and bunnies, maybe the rattlers will leave now too, and I will be able to grow a small garden. The gophers are the newest problem in that regards. I've tried smoke bombs, and traps with zero luck; everything but explosives molded in the shape of cute female gophers, like "Caddy Shack".
Still planning on borrowing my neighbors 6 foot box to see how I can work it.
Yes, I am getting better with the front loader. I have figured out how to tip-out some of those bigger 300 pound rocks, and drag the bucket to flatten. doing it in float though leaves a roller coaster effect, so I tip the bucket down about 45 degrees and adjust the height as I go. It doesn't look like Jenkin's field, but it fills in the ditches so you can easily drive a city car on it.
 
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   / Beginners guide to using a box blade #162  
Forks set close together work well to dig out boulders also good to pick up stumps too. Also if you can weld/fabricate you can build a land plane grader scraper for about $125/ft of length.
 
   / Beginners guide to using a box blade #163  
Man Las Cruces is really growing, I am headed there this afternoon from Ruidoso, seems like it is bigger every time I go.
I'm constantly finding new businesses and such where there used to be empty fields a few years ago. Crazy.
 
   / Beginners guide to using a box blade #164  
Forks set close together work well to dig out boulders also good to pick up stumps too. Also if you can weld/fabricate you can build a land plane grader scraper for about $125/ft of length.

Forks? what forks? I only have a front loader bucket with a straight front edge. I get up a little speed, tilt the bucket about 10 degrees and drop it into the ground, so the momentum helps get some depth, before it hits the rock, then curl up the bucket while pushing hard against it with the HST. There is not enough traction to just push the bucket in....the ground is usually too hard. sometimes if the rock is too big, it stalls the curl hydraulics and I have to give up on it.
 
   / Beginners guide to using a box blade #165  
Yeah! Steve A, you've been outed and you might as well just give up and move to Texas. Your governor wants to replace you with illegal aliens anyway.

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Well now that you have made it a Texas vs. California issue, I offer this...

CA vs TX.jpg
 
   / Beginners guide to using a box blade #166  
Thought I would post a few pics of a job done this month, small pasture with flood irrigation that I graded with a .250 % slope. First two pics of the field after grading three and four of the box blade, did not use the land plane on this field. The fifth picture is the adjacent field where I used the land plane after the box blade, you can see it makes the field a wee bit smoother. The last two pics are of the land plane used for this, I built this in 2009 to smooth out my rear lawn. While I do use a Topcon laser and receiver this work was all done without machine control, manual operation only. Will be adding the machine control and hydraulic wheels when this project is completed and collected. Point is that there is no way I could get these results if I did not have a good view of the entire box blade when working it.

Edit to add location is the Hondo valley in New Mexico, lots of old western movies used this area as their setting.

Beautiful work! Nice looking dirt too. Send some of that over this way, would ya?
 
   / Beginners guide to using a box blade #167  
Thought I would post a few pics of a job done this month, small pasture with flood irrigation that I graded with a .250 % slope. First two pics of the field after grading three and four of the box blade, did not use the land plane on this field. The fifth picture is the adjacent field where I used the land plane after the box blade, you can see it makes the field a wee bit smoother. The last two pics are of the land plane used for this, I built this in 2009 to smooth out my rear lawn. While I do use a Topcon laser and receiver this work was all done without machine control, manual operation only. Will be adding the machine control and hydraulic wheels when this project is completed and collected. Point is that there is no way I could get these results if I did not have a good view of the entire box blade when working it.

Edit to add location is the Hondo valley in New Mexico, lots of old western movies used this area as their setting.
Many of us on here can 'talk the talk'. You sir, can definitely 'walk the walk'. That is a work of art.
 
   / Beginners guide to using a box blade #168  
Well now that you have made it a Texas vs. California issue, I offer this... <img src="http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/files/attachments/388229-beginners-guide-using-box-blade-ca-vs-tx-jpg"/>

Good One! :-D

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   / Beginners guide to using a box blade #169  
RDrancher and Ford850,
Thanks for the nice comments on the pictures. We should be planting all of this next week in Tall Fescue.
 
   / Beginners guide to using a box blade #170  
RDrancher and Ford850,
Thanks for the nice comments on the pictures. We should be planting all of this next week in Tall Fescue.
 
   / Beginners guide to using a box blade #171  
Just finished up with the brush hog yesterday and good thing too; Major brush fire came right up to my south fence line today. Airplanes and choppers knocked it down in a less than 2 hours.....my boulders are painted orange now; talk about graffiti.
 
   / Beginners guide to using a box blade #172  
Well now that you have made it a Texas vs. California issue, I offer this...

<img src="http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/files/attachments/388229-beginners-guide-using-box-blade-ca-vs-tx-jpg"/>

That's really good! Go Texas!
 
   / Beginners guide to using a box blade #173  
Thanks for the info 3RRL.... I came across this thread because I am going to start playing with my new box blade this month. No doubt this thread saved a lot of headache and shortened the learning curve tremendously.
 
   / Beginners guide to using a box blade #174  
The Box Blade is no longer a virgin! I finally screwed up the courage to remove my backhoe to put on my box blade - it only sat on it's shipping palette for a year & a half!!

I worked on an area that's been eroding at the end of my driveway for a couple of years. I have to say, I'm pretty pleased with my first effort! There's great advice on how to use a Box Blade here on TBN!!!!



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   / Beginners guide to using a box blade #175  
When starting off with box blade, set the box leval for 1st run on a driveway as with compacted material the less you disturb the better, this way you only scrape high spots. If you need 2 cut deeper shorten top link a little at a time as you only want 2 move sufficient material 2 fill hollows. When I ordered my tractor I had a hydraulic cylinder fitted to near side linkage, this saves a lot of climbing in and out of seat to alter the angle by manual adjustment on other link. In a lot of instances it will be quicker to top dress existing drive sufficiently to fill ruts, compact and then finish with box blade.

Water is the biggest problem to effect any road or driveway therefore compaction and crowning to minimise absorbsion is critical and a vibrating roller hired for a day will considerably extend the road life,

A stick rake is ideal for mixing a few bags of concrete into loose surface prior to rolling and help with water resistance
 
   / Beginners guide to using a box blade #176  
AB4655, I read your post a few times, but not clear on your meaning re "top dress"; is this something done with the loader bucket?
What is "near side"?
How do you tell when box adjustment is "level"? on a Gear-All box.....I am having one delivered tomorrow.
We get about 2-3 inches of rain a year, so water erosion is not as much of a problem here....but rocks and half-buried boulders are. Can't get the big ones out, so have to fill in between with dirt from who-knows-where.
 
   / Beginners guide to using a box blade #177  
AB4655, I read your post a few times, but not clear on your meaning re "top dress"; is this something done with the loader bucket?
What is "near side"?
How do you tell when box adjustment is "level"? on a Gear-All box.....I am having one delivered tomorrow.
We get about 2-3 inches of rain a year, so water erosion is not as much of a problem here....but rocks and half-buried boulders are. Can't get the big ones out, so have to fill in between with dirt from who-knows-where.
 
   / Beginners guide to using a box blade #178  
I'm assuming he means just replacing the adjustable side link on the 3pt with a hydraulic cylinder. Typically half of what is called a TnT or Top & Tilt kit. The other half is replacing the top link with a hydraulic cylinder. Actually its recommended to move the adjustable link to the other side & set it so the 3pt is level when the cylinder is half out.

Level usually means the implement square to the tractors axle. Usually accomplished by a calibrated eyeball or wild guess. Occasionally by adjusting the 3pt to be parallel to the ground when you are on a flat surface.
 
   / Beginners guide to using a box blade #179  
Top dress means to add material on top to fill low areas.
 
   / Beginners guide to using a box blade #180  
I'm constantly finding new businesses and such where there used to be empty fields a few years ago. Crazy.

You can say that again. I moved away for a few years, then moved back. The town almost doubled in size. I live NW of Dona Ana and a lot of the farms have been sold and converted to housing. One of my neighbors just planted a cotton field with pecans, so he isn't planning to sell anytime soon. At least most of the "new" development is East of LC. I don't want any more neighbors close to me cause they always want to add street lights which really messes up my looking at the stars. I'm semi-retired and "raise" pecans and other fruit trees. Currently, I'm using my box blade to clean out the irrigation ditch so I can get water the one time allowed. The rest of the time, I pump it from the well.
 
 

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