Buying Advice Small CUT or large SCUT Advice

GPintheMitten · Mar 12, 2014

Olympus said:
When using my last tractor, I never used the little stop on the position control. I just kept my hand on the 3pt lever and made small adjustments while grading. If I was pulling too much, I'd make small increments up until I wasn't pulling so deep.

I just want to make sure I can make small adjustments. I do NOT want my blade coming out and dumping little humps of rock every time I try to raise it just a touch.

Well then maybe it's better to forego the dual peddles in favor of the position control. Nuff said? ...probably not nuff.

GManBart · Mar 12, 2014

Olympus said:
When using my last tractor, I never used the little stop on the position control. I just kept my hand on the 3pt lever and made small adjustments while grading. If I was pulling too much, I'd make small increments up until I wasn't pulling so deep.

I just want to make sure I can make small adjustments. I do NOT want my blade coming out and dumping little humps of rock every time I try to raise it just a touch.

I'm only somewhat familiar with one style of manual position control, so this may not apply, but it sounds like you could get by with one. The type I've seen had an implement control lever that rested in a center position. If you push forward, the implement lowers until you return the lever to center. The farther forward you push, the faster the implement lowers. The opposite is true if you pull backwards to raise the implement.

Since it's an important primary task for you, I'd see if the dealer can set up the machine you're interested in with a blade or land plane for you to try out. That will be the ultimate answer.

Olympus · Mar 12, 2014

GManBart said:
I'm only somewhat familiar with one style of manual position control, so this may not apply, but it sounds like you could get by with one. The type I've seen had an implement control lever that rested in a center position. If you push forward, the implement lowers until you return the lever to center. The farther forward you push, the faster the implement lowers. The opposite is true if you pull backwards to raise the implement.

Since it's an important primary task for you, I'd see if the dealer can set up the machine you're interested in with a blade or land plane for you to try out. That will be the ultimate answer.

That's exactly the way the J2023 is. The 3pt lever is like a aux hydraulic lever. It rests in a center position and will return there when let go of.

I think I may ask the dealer to hook up a box blade and let me try it. That's a good idea.

TSO · Mar 12, 2014

I had the "treadle-pedal" on my CK20. Since then I've had the "dual" pedal setup on various tractors. While I prefer the "dual" pedal design, once you're used to either, you'll be fine with it. Some guys here actually prefer the treadle-pedal, while others do not. I'm sure you won't mind it after 10-20 hrs.

Olympus · Mar 12, 2014

I tried one on the older J2030 model. I didn't like the feeling that my right for wasn't flat on the floor like my left foot. It just felt like an awkward position to sit in for any kind of time.

TSO · Mar 13, 2014

http://grandrapids.craigslist.org/grd/4364193673.html

GManBart · Mar 13, 2014

TSO said:
LS Tractor J2020H With Loader 100hrs Transferable Warranty Diesel 4x4

That has the treadle he doesn't like

TSO · Mar 13, 2014

GManBart said:
That has the treadle he doesn't like

True, but I figured the price might be worth Considering, especially since its used and may have wiggle room in the price

Olympus · Mar 13, 2014

Thanks for the tip. I don't think I would be interested mainly because it's located too far away.

I'm thinking about taking a half day off work tomorrow and going up and testing the 2023 some more.

Olympus · Mar 13, 2014

Well turns out the dealer sold that 2023 that I had looked at. I can't seem to find a single dealer in reasonable driving distance that has one in stock that I could spend more time with.

Green Power · Mar 18, 2014

Did you find a tractor?

Olympus · Mar 18, 2014

Green Power said:
Did you find a tractor?

Yep, I ordered a new J2023. Should be here in a couple weeks.

Green Power · Mar 18, 2014

Congrats! Hopefully it will be a good tractor for you and serve you well for many years.

murphy1244 · Mar 18, 2014

Olympus said:
Yep, I ordered a new J2023. Should be here in a couple weeks.

Congrats on your New machine and TBN rules apply. Need Pictures please.

GManBart · Mar 18, 2014

Olympus said:
Yep, I ordered a new J2023. Should be here in a couple weeks.

Cool...congrats! I'd love to have a J2023 for some of my chores, but I think the wife might steal it! Pics when you get it, or it never happened

Olympus · Mar 18, 2014

Thanks fellas. I'll be posting a lot of photos since there is not much info and photos on the J2023. I'll probably start a new thread in the LS section.

GPintheMitten · Mar 19, 2014

Great. Looking forward to your new thread.

windcatcher · Mar 19, 2014

GPintheMitten said:
Well then maybe it's better to forego the dual peddles in favor of the position control. Nuff said? ...probably not nuff.

Hey folks. I'm in a similar position. I'm looking at the LS J2023H and also the LS J2030H. I see where Olympus (sp?) didn't like these tractors not having position control. I've seen the G3033H up close myself, and it has knobs for position control similar to the old way Farmall did the Farmall Cub, Super A, etc.

Is there any reason something like this manual setup couldn't be adapted to the J2023H/J2030H? I thought I had some photos to show what I'm talking about, but not this time.

Olympus · Mar 19, 2014

There's no way to rig any kind of position control for the J Series tractors. The 3pt lever works like an auxiliary hydraulic lever. There is no way to rig a stop that I can conceive. It really wasn't that big of a deal to me. I never used position control on my last tractor.

windcatcher · Mar 19, 2014

Thanks Olympus for the quick answer. I'll try to swing back by this weekend and take better photos of the J2023H in my area if it's still there. Please let me know what you think of your tractor once you get it. I'm definitely leaning towards the LS series, but need to get a few more things sorted out first.

I do remember the ground clearance at the front - just behind the front wheel at being a little over 15 inches tall. That's from a tape measurement I took with me. It could be a bit more or less depending on how you look at it from an angle.