Front tire slipped off rim

[RWTschoeke]

Last month during one of our cold snaps, I took my Boomer 3045 out of the shed to clear some snow and unfortunately in my attempt to get the left front tire back on the driveway, the tire slipped off the rim. Once recognized, I drove the tractor back into the shed slowly, jacked it up and removed the rim and tire. The tire is a Titan 10-16.5 NHS 6PR Trac Loader R4 (tubeless). I brought it to the local tire shop to see if they could put it back on, but they determined that the bead was too damaged to hold a seal and suggested brand new tire. Asking all of you if other options exist. Dealer cost of new tire is $300 on the Titan site. Would placing a tube be an option or are there lower cost tire options.

 

[DK35vince]

Hard to tell for sure how bad it is by the photo.
But I would try a tube. Looks like it would be fine with a tube.
Worth a try.
I put a 1" cut in the sidewall of one of my front R-4 tires. Installed a tube several years ago. It is holding up fine.

 

[pmsmechanic]

As above

 

[Looking4new]

For the price of a tube compared to the price of a new tire, I would try the tube first.

 

[jejeosborne]

If the tread is still pretty new, fill it with foam. I did my fronts and love the extra weight too.

 

[PANHAPP]

It probably got low on pressure. Mine has popped off when I didn't watch it.
Pan

 

[jpm1]

Take your tire to a dealer that foams tires. If he can do it when you get your tire back it will be literally "bullet" proof. Foaming tires is a little costly, but once you do it your done with the problem for good.
One thing about r-4s in cold weather, they easily come off the rim. Reason unknown, so you really should check your air pressure weekly.
I priced a new tire for our skidsteer, a bigger sized tire and heavier ply than your tire and the dealer came in at $150 for a new tire mounted. Ide shop around . . . .John

 

[the old grind]

I'd gently feel around any inside areas that make you wonder for anything sharp or protruding and put in a tube as suggested. Sometimes the tough part is getting the valve stem into the hole and stuffing the rest of the tube in while fighting both beads in the mounting groove, if that's where the stem lines up. If there's talcum powder on the tube, sprinkle a bit extra into the tire and shake it around first.

R-4s are heavy walled tires and don't show low pressure sag like R-1s or turfs, and IMO they need to be monitored the most frequently. If you get lucky and can air one back up right where it slips off you can easily get grit or gravel under the bead, and that wouldn't help to seal it. It might not take much. Redo pronto at the shop, just in case. (ask me how I know .. :duh

btw: Foam may be a one shot deal. Don't know what happens when a tire is toast anyway. New rim too? I like the adjustability of air, not the constant checking/topping but a fair trade for me. All my mower, small trailer, etc tires wear tubes because they seem to stay on better at the low pressures (7-12 lbs) that work best for 'em. :2cents:

 

[94BULLITT]

It is hard to tell by the picture. I would take it to another tire shop for a second opinion.

 

[JerryG]

I think I would just put it back on the rim. I blew the photo up and except for the end of the one cut that has protruded into the rim area by a small amount it looks like it would still work. I would try it any way.

 

[jejeosborne]

btw: Foam may be a one shot deal. Don't know what happens when a tire is toast anyway. New rim too? I like the adjustability of air, not the constant checking/topping but a fair trade for me. All my mower, small trailer, etc tires wear tubes because they seem to stay on better at the low pressures (7-12 lbs) that work best for 'em. :2cents:

Foam is not a one shot deal. After spending money and time on at least two tubes a year, I can tell you foam is awesome. The added traction is a bonus. I never adjusted my tractor tires and always ran them at the proper pressure anyway. "Once you go foam, you are always able to roam".

 

[OrangeGuy]

I had the same thing happen last week with my Bobcat Skid Loader. Popped a tube in and away I went. Cost $30.46 for a 12 x 16.5 tube installed. Hardest part was lifting the darn thing into the pickup bed; getting old.

 

[TSO]

Foam is not a one shot deal. After spending money and time on at least two tubes a year, I can tell you foam is awesome. The added traction is a bonus. I never adjusted my tractor tires and always ran them at the proper pressure anyway. "Once you go foam, you are always able to roam".

How does one find a foam dealer, and how is the weight compared to fluid?

 

[coldfingers]

That sounds like the comon skid steer size which I see on sale here for 120.00 or so every now and then.

 

[k0ua]

How does one find a foam dealer, and how is the weight compared to fluid?

here is a chart
http://www.gallaghertire.com/contentonly.aspx?file=pdf/Foam+Fill+eStore+Weight+Chart+April+2012.pdf

use the internet to find a dealer.

Keep in mind foam comes in different density's

 

[jejeosborne]

How does one find a foam dealer, and how is the weight compared to fluid?

I just Called around and found one. The foam they used in mine is considerably heavier than fluid filled. I would almost not consider it a foam and more like a silicon. There should be charts on the Web showing how much weight per tire size it adds. There is still similar side wall flex as air, possibly a little stiffer. It is strange to pick up your tire from the dealer with installed roofing nails. They have it inject from multiple points around the tire. I still gasp every now and then when I see them until my brain realizes they are supposed to be there.

According to the posted link, looks like the OP ' S tire would gain 160 lbs with that particular foam.

Same chart shows 84 lbs for my 7-12 tires on my b7800. Sounds about right because I could barely lift them into my truck.

 

[chopped]

Dont look bad to me but id use a tube. you cant beat tubes in my opinion...there is alot of force sideways on these from wheels..but id first try to just mount it back up ..maybe some rim sealer.... nothing to loose.

 

[crazyal]

Unless you need the weight or are in an area prone to flats I think I wouldn't bother with adding foam. The two quick fixes would be a tube, as you suggested or bead sealer. Bead sealer is a black rubbery paste that gets applied to the rim. It's kind of like fix a flat / slime but will dry to a rubber like compound. This is the stuff I use, works well when I don't want to install a tube in things like car/ truck tires that have some corrosion around the bead or valve stem.

Bs-228 - BlackJack Tire Repair

 

[RWTschoeke]

Pomp's Tire Service in Green Bay took care of repairing my tire. They identified a hole in the tread which they plugged and also installed a 10R/12R16.5 Tube ($20) to hopefully prevent further issues. The bead was not as bad as the first mechanic I had taken it to had indicated; they did apply bead sealer so the combination of tube and sealer should serve me well for hours on end. Thank you all for your comments, insight and options. Lesson learned. The next -15 degree day I may heed my wife's advice and stay inside stoking the fire waiting for the temps to rise a little bit before going out to play.

 

[Bob77064]

That's a good repair, it should work just fine.