Seriously...TPMS?

[rsallen]

That's the ticket Gman, lets bring back slicks!

 

[rsallen]

HUH?
You're not making sense Check.

 

[GManBart]

Where do you come up with this stuff. Cars are heavier today than they were 30 yrs ago ??? Really ???? Auto makers aren't getting the fuel mileage they are getting out of these autos by building them heavier. around 30 yrs ago the imports were getting better gas mileage than us made vehicles . You know why ???? Smaller engines smaller vehicles that were lighter in weight. There's not a lot of magic in getting fuel mileage... Loose weight !!!! All vehicles today are made out of lighter weight material than they were 30 yrs ago.. that's a fact !!!. I also see cars all over the side of the road with flat blown out tires. I know you don't believe it but, people still drive with the light on thinking they'll air up the tire when they get a chance. TPMS does nothing for a sudden blow out when someone runs over an object on the hwy. Like truckers, I give my vehicles a look B-4 I just jump in and drive off

Wow, you really don't know much about cars, do you? Go look up historical weights of cars from say 1970-1975, then compare them with current cars.

A 1970 Chevelle Malibu, 4dr with V8 engine weighed 3,800lbs give or take. The Ford Taurus V6 AWD I had as a work car weighed 4,250lbs. Yep, and a Taurus isn't exactly a huge car. New Chrysler 300s go from 4,000 to almost 4,300lbs. Only the biggest of the BIG cars from the early 70s weighed as much as even medium/large size cars do today.

A 1974 Ford Mustang with V8 weighed 2,800lbs max. A 2014 Ford Mustang with a V8 weighs 3,600lbs, and they're similar in size.

My Tundra weighed just over 6,000lbs when I was on the scale at the scrap yard....how many 1/2 ton trucks weighed that much 30 years ago? None....

So you really think modern cars are getting lighter? Wrong....they're heavier. They get better gas mileage because the engines are far more efficient, and they have things like overdrive transmissions to help even more.

I never said that nobody would drive with the light on, I said a lot of people wouldn't drive with the light on....period.

Sudden blowouts? Seriously, those are extremely rare, and most often, are preceded by losing pressure that the driver didn't know about, because they didn't have a TPMS system.

 

[ruffdog]

You know what, If it blows or goes flat on me guess what??? I can and have handled it !!!! I've been driving about 45 years so, I've probably had/changed more flats than you've seen !!. I'm not like some of you younger folks. I can handle things myself. I don't need the government to do it for me. If we bet. and you win,. Will the government have to help you build the barn ??? Someone will because, the way you talk you need all the help you can get.

This reminded me of the flat tire scene in the movie "The Christmas Story". A Christmas Story The Flat Tire - YouTube

 

[GManBart]

You know what, If it blows or goes flat on me guess what??? I can and have handled it !!!! I've been driving about 45 years so, I've probably had/changed more flats than you've seen !!. I'm not like some of you younger folks. I can handle things myself. I don't need the government to do it for me. If we bet. and you win,. Will the government have to help you build the barn ??? Someone will because, the way you talk you need all the help you can get.

Just because you haven't had an accident because of a low tire doesn't mean you can "handle it"....it just hasn't happened to you yet. I've only been driving about 30 years, but for six of them I had a CDL and probably drove more miles in a week than you do in a couple of months. Oh, and there was the three years I lived in Montana where I would do a minimum of 1,000 miles a week driving between missile launch sites.

There are always dinosaurs that refuse to accept that there are improvements out there to make things safer for everybody....the quicker they stop driving, the sooner the rest of us will be a little bit safer.

You know what's great? There isn't any argument here....the law is already in place. Deal with it! :thumbsup:

 

[ruffdog]

Newer cars weigh more because they have ABS, TPMS, metal for impact protection, air bags, emission equipment, better seats and interiors, cd players, bigger wheels and tires and brakes, power windows locks mirrors pedals seats, heated seats and mirrors, and of course all the cup holders. And don't forget all the sound deadening they put in now too.

 

[aczlan]

Where do you come up with this stuff. Cars are heavier today than they were 30 yrs ago ??? Really ???? Auto makers aren't getting the fuel mileage they are getting out of these autos by building them heavier. around 30 yrs ago the imports were getting better gas mileage than us made vehicles . You know why ???? Smaller engines smaller vehicles that were lighter in weight. There's not a lot of magic in getting fuel mileage... Loose weight !!!! All vehicles today are made out of lighter weight material than they were 30 yrs ago.. that's a fact !!!.

You do realize that cars have gotten heavier over time right?
An example:

1985 Volvo 740 GLE Wagon:
Overall Length 188.4 in.
Overall Width 68.9 in.
Overall Height 56.5 in.
Curb Weight 3078-3102 lbs.

1989 Volvo 740 GLE Wagon
Overall Length 188.4 in.
Overall Width 68.9 in.
Overall Height 55.5 in.
Curb Weight 3135-3161 lbs.

1995 Volvo 940 Turbo Wagon(same car, same frame, new interior and a new hood/grill/bumpers)
Overall Length 190.7 in.
Overall Width 68.9 in.
Overall Height 56.5 in.
Curb Weight 3267-3350 lbs

Look at the Civic, compare a 1985 Civic (CRX Si MT 1883# curb weight) to a 2003 Civic (Si with manual transmission, 2744# curb weight). That's 861# more weight to be schlepping around from stoplight to stoplight.

Aaron Z

 

[Runner]

[You know what's great? There isn't any argument here....the law is already in place. Deal with it!]

Yup, it's "SETTLED LAW". Now, where have we heard that before??

 

[ruffdog]

I went shopping yesterday at the grocery store and saw a newer SUV with its rear tires HALF flat. :duh:

 

[Runner]

I went shopping yesterday at the grocery store and saw a newer SUV with its rear tires HALF flat. :duh:

Yeah, but just the bottom half, right?