Picking a trailer for new JD 5083E

[case245]

you dont need a cdl IN PA for a trailer over 10k if its for your own use i checked the law 6 way to sunday non commerical

 

[RedNeckRacin]

you dont need a cdl IN PA for a trailer over 10k if its for your own use i checked the law 6 way to sunday non commerical

<rant>Ditto, Lets not start the CDL, no CDL bs again. If your scared get the license. Don't preach to everyone else about it. </end rant>

Currently in PA however, and correct me if i'm wrong, if you are over 17k GCW, you need a medical card. Lets face something else. Majority of people on here are non-commercial and dont need a cdl with a half ton truck pulling a 10k trailer with their stuff. The people running dually's are pretty serious about towing and don't need a lecture about it.

 

[Duffster]

<rant>Ditto, Lets not start the CDL, no CDL bs again. If your scared get the license. Don't preach to everyone else about it. </end rant>

Currently in PA however, and correct me if i'm wrong, if you are over 17k GCW, you need a medical card. Lets face something else. Majority of people on here are non-commercial and dont need a cdl with a half ton truck pulling a 10k trailer with their stuff. The people running dually's are pretty serious about towing and don't need a lecture about it.

 

[flyingcow]

Pull up a chair boys.........The fun begins........CDL? GVRW? CGVRW? How fat is my azz to be in the seat? God. I'm way over weight.........

Just to let you boys know, I have a 3500 series with a GN. I am only registered for 9000lbs. CGVRW. And I don't have a medical card! Good god the horror.

Sorry....

 

[RedNeckRacin]

Hey Duffster, Was that a lil over the top? I guess I should apoligize for the rant?

 

[davel8257]

I didn't mean to start something...

I started to write a bit more, but I think I'd better not step in any more doo-doo than I already have.

 

[RedNeckRacin]

I didn't mean to start something...

I started to write a bit more, but I think I'd better not step in any more doo-doo than I already have.

Davel, Its not a big deal. It just always seems to be the topic of choice anytime someone mentions pulling a heavy trailer with a pick-up. I didn't mean to sound like I was jumping all over you, but the subject has been beaten to death repeatedly. You are correct with the weight however. For the occassional time that someone is pulling something I dont think it is justified to have to go through the process of getting a cdl. (is that illegal? yes) If it was going to be for a business or more than an accidential/slightly intentional going over the threshold weight, then I completely agree with you. Again, I apoligize.

 

[flyingcow]

I have a CDL and drive a "big rig" for a living. I agree with RedNeck whole hardheartedly. And yes, it's beaten to death here.

 

[bglz42]

Thanks for all the replies!!

I have decided to hold off for a while, my neighbor has two trailers I can borrow any time. I won't be moving anything until spring anyway...

Jim

 

[dstacy]

Ok so I have an F250 which would be 3/4 ton. Do you guys think I can haul a GN with a 24' deck and my 5093E with an H260 loader on it if I was careful?

 

[ditzel]

Yes, kind of. You really need to weigh it. Most 12k ttrailers are closer to 3k empty.

Chris

My 12k bri-mar deckover 8'x20' weighs 3700lbs empty according to the mfg website.

 

[RedNeckRacin]

dstacy,

sounds like you already know the answer to that. The deck length has nothing to do with it. Its stopping the load. Everyone wants to talk about how much horsepower their rig has, but that's only for bragging. If someone pulled out in front of you, would you feel confident that you could stop the truck trailer and tractor in a hurry and not kill someone? I towed my 5083E with a 2005 3500 dodge SRW with a cummins and a 6 speed. Did I haul it everywhere I wanted, Yes. Did it pucker my *** during a panic stop, YOU BETTER BELIEVE IT. You can load it in such a way to keep the weight off the truck, but the brakes are the brakes. I wont tell you it can't be done, but I would suggest not doing it often.

 

[dstacy]

dstacy,

sounds like you already know the answer to that. The deck length has nothing to do with it. Its stopping the load. Everyone wants to talk about how much horsepower their rig has, but that's only for bragging. If someone pulled out in front of you, would you feel confident that you could stop the truck trailer and tractor in a hurry and not kill someone? I towed my 5083E with a 2005 3500 dodge SRW with a cummins and a 6 speed. Did I haul it everywhere I wanted, Yes. Did it pucker my *** during a panic stop, YOU BETTER BELIEVE IT. You can load it in such a way to keep the weight off the truck, but the brakes are the brakes. I wont tell you it can't be done, but I would suggest not doing it often.

Ok so would you be willing to educate me since I really don't know or understand.
My truck has the towing package from the factory and a port to plug in a brake controller. I thought if I plugged in a brake controller it would use the brakes on the trailer and I'd wouldn't have problems with stopping. I know a V-10 F250 can tow the weight.

Thanks in advance for the replies.

 

[RedNeckRacin]

well yes, and no. I can get into the legal stuff but anyways. I would reccomend a bigger truck personally. yes the 7 pin connector will give you trailer brakes. However, when you brake hard, ALOT of weight gets transfered to the truck. I personally dont think a 3/4 ton is the smartest idea. Will it pull it? sure, will it grunt and groan? you better believe it. The only thing you would have going for you is if the tire is unballasted. I'm not really sure what your question is though?

 

[dstacy]

I'm not really sure what your question is though?

I guess I'm trying to figure out if I'll be ok taking it 30 miles on state blacktop roads from my ranch to my other piece of property every 3 weeks or so.

 

[Davidsan]

Again this isn't a Deere, but here's a picture of how I load up with an M9540 and 15' shredder. I know I'm way overweight. I just take it nice and slow and prepare to stop way in advance.

As was already stated, I would definitely recommend a deck-over for that size tractor/loader - especially if you plan to haul an implement on the rear.

 

[Overkill]

Love all these pics, you guys are hauling some serious Toys on those 14k trailers!!