Box Scraper Box Blade Oops!

[Bignoles]

Hello,
This is my first post, but I have been searching the site regularly for information since I have recently bought my first tractor (used).
The tractor is an 84' International 784, box blade is a 7' bush hog MBX840. Now to the problem, I was using the box blade yesterday, turned the corner around the gate (not very fast) and the outermost ripper shank ran into my back left tire causing about a 2' long gash/tear in the tire...not gonna be able to patch that, just glad it did not cause damage to the BB or 3PH. After much cussing I began to wonder if there was supposed to be something that keeps the box from swinging that far to the side. Am I missing something? I have not located a new/used tire yet but I'm guessing that an 18.4-30 ag tire is not too cheap! Any help would be appreciated.

 

[Diamondpilot]

There should be limiting chains going to the 2 lower 3 point lift arms connection to the tractors rear axle area near the rear tire.

Chris

 

[firemanpat2910]

could you patch the tire and then put a tube in it? The patch would not have to be air tight, just holds everything together and keep the dirt on the outside. And there should be check chains or possibly adjust your top link to get a better height/angle.

 

[JB4310]

Hello,
This is my first post, but I have been searching the site regularly for information since I have recently bought my first tractor (used).
The tractor is an 84' International 784, box blade is a 7' bush hog MBX840. Now to the problem, I was using the box blade yesterday, turned the corner around the gate (not very fast) and the outermost ripper shank ran into my back left tire causing about a 2' long gash/tear in the tire...not gonna be able to patch that, just glad it did not cause damage to the BB or 3PH. After much cussing I began to wonder if there was supposed to be something that keeps the box from swinging that far to the side. Am I missing something? I have not located a new/used tire yet but I'm guessing that an 18.4-30 ag tire is not too cheap! Any help would be appreciated.

First of all welcome.

Yes you should have side sway stabilizers to prevent that, usually they have a turn buckle to snug them up and keep things tight.

Here's some pics, see if these look like yours.

JB.

 

[Bignoles]

Patching the tire is out, the ripper tooth caught and ripped the tire about 2' around, looks like somebody unzipped the darn thing. I think I have a picture of the tire on my other computer. If so I'll put it on here as a what not to do with your new toys
First thing after putting a new tire on is going to be check chains, got it!
Thanks for the replies.
Nolan

 

[Bignoles]

JB4310
Thanks for the pics. No, I do not have the stabilizer you are showing. I have the lift arms, and the support rod? that goes up, but not the stabilizer with turnbuckle you have.
I'm guessing they do the same thing as check chains like has been said.
Thanks again
Nolan

 

[framer]

Sorry about your mishap.Looks like some good advice already. Wish you better
luck.We all screw up.

 

[Gittyup]

Some have chains, some have turn buckles, some have sliding sway bars with holes for a stop pin. They are a must for just about all 3ph implements. Check with a dealer that knows your make tractor and get some before you tear anything else up.

 

[LBrown59]

Check with a dealer that knows your make tractor and get some before you tear anything else up.

Nothin wrong with bein a green horn but it shure can be
agergusting.

 

[LBrown59]

Sorry about your mishap.Looks like some good advice already. Wish you better
luck.We all screw up.

I'm not sure about that.

 

[LBrown59]

Patching the tire is out, the ripper tooth caught and ripped the tire about 2' around, looks like somebody unzipped the darn thing. I think I have a picture of the tire on my other computer. If so I'll put it on here as a what not to do with your new toys
First thing after putting a new tire on is going to be check chains, got it!
Thanks for the replies.
Nolan

Put a new zipper in it.

 

[Bignoles]

Dang! Is that all you have to do is replace the zipper? What isle of the store are the tire zippers in? LOL I can imagine that conversation at wal-mart.
Destroying a tire is my limit on self-inflicted stupid for this week, but seriously how much should I expect to pay for a new tire and tube (18.4 x 30)
Thanks
Nolan

 

[rambler]

Ag tires are expensive....

Looks like $626.00

Edit - oh, that's just the tire, tube is another $60 or so.

--->Paul

 

[john_bud]

Ag tires are expensive....

Looks like $626.00

Edit - oh, that's just the tire, tube is another $60 or so.

--->Paul

Knowledge is power, but wisdom is expensive!

jb

 

[Bedlam]

Search around the net for the tire there are a few bargains to be had, Although they are expensive also. I found two that were right for me on on line auction site. But for the rears I actually found them locally for less.
You could possibly make your own sway chains with some chain and a few bolts...

 

[Bignoles]

Found the tire local for $495
I was looking at the tractor last night (still on blocks, tire will take a couple days to get in), need a couple pieces of chain from the garage, some repair links and BAM, I coulda saved a lot o money

 

[dangerdoc]

Found the tire local for $495
I was looking at the tractor last night (still on blocks, tire will take a couple days to get in), need a couple pieces of chain from the garage, some repair links and BAM, I coulda saved a lot o money

Check around. There is usually a tire shop that looks really dirty and decrepid but dozens of cars coming and going. They are the ones that take care of their customers and usually have a wide assortment of orphan used tires. I have gotten some real deals that way.

 

[mwb]

Case has a very good web site for exploded part drawings. Here is the link:
https://webparts.pvassociates.net/cnh/webparts/main.php

Your tractor does have a stabilizer, I found a picture of it on the web (image search for IH 784 and found this:


The case site shows details:


Cheers,
Mike

 

[J_J]

Put a new zipper in it.

Mr Brown, Could you make your replies a little bit smaller, and use the most opaque color you can find. I am going blind here, and you aren't helping any.

THANKS

 

[Greenmountain Farmer]

Found the tire local for $495
I was looking at the tractor last night (still on blocks, tire will take a couple days to get in), need a couple pieces of chain from the garage, some repair links and BAM, I coulda saved a lot o money

One thing to watch for is to have thread wear as close to the other as possible. a new tire against a half worn out one, will cause the old tire to slip in rough going.

Tom in Vermont