TRUCK AND TRAILER TEAM.

[wkpoor]

I think Fred's talking about my previous post (#17). I only stated what the manufacturers recommended tow ratings were a few years ago. Any idiot / person with a pickup can hook up to a 20K loaded trailer or put 4K into a pickup bed if they choose to do so and the truck will probably pull it although stopping may be a problem. I just don't want to be around them on the road. I have a neighbor who regularly hauls a 18K excavator on a 20K goose neck with a 1T dually. I estimate his loaded trailer weighs about 24-25K and is well above what his truck is rated for. That doesn't make it legal or safe. My posts are only to assist the poster (LB) in choosing the right vehicle and trailer for what he wants to do and be legal. I have a 2500HD with Duramax / Allison that is rated for towing 15,800. I know the truck could easily tow 25K but I won't do it. Have I ever exceeded my rated capacity? Sure I have. I think everyone who owns a pickup has exceeded its rated capacity at one time or another whether they realize it or not, it just doesn't make it legal.

I have mentioned this before. Go to any truck and tractor pull and see what comes in pulling what. A whole bunch of 1T and 3/4T trucks pulling tandem dully goosenecks. You tell me?

 

[farmboy12]

I have mentioned this before. Go to any truck and tractor pull and see what comes in pulling what. A whole bunch of 1T and 3/4T trucks pulling tandem dully goosenecks. You tell me?

Not always just that...a lot of the time there's teams with one or more "big trucks" instead of running all over [place area here] in a pickup.


Kyle

 

[JohnDeere4300]

1*I understand this but how would you load something like this little building that is wider than the space between your fenders?

Had I had a trailer like I'm talking about back in Nov. when I bought this building I could have hauled it myself and saved the 150 i paid to have this truck deliver it.

LB.

I hauled a 12x12 building a mile-1/2 and won't haul another one because it was so top heavy. We jacked up the building and backed the trailer under it, then i had to buy 6x6 timbers and stacked them so the building would be above the fenders.

Sorry to hear about your brother.
When did it happen?

This happened on Wednesday the 11th- last week.

 

[farmboy12]

1*I understand this but how would you load something like this little building that is wider than the space between your fenders?

Had I had a trailer like I'm talking about back in Nov. when I bought this building I could have hauled it myself and saved the 150 i paid to have this truck deliver it.

LB-

Just realized, your dates on that camera are 4 years and 9 months off...


Kyle

 

[LBrown59]

LB-

Just realized, your dates on that camera are 4 years and 9 months off...


Kyle

Yeah I don't know what happened but I could not correct it after the picture was taken.

 

[LBrown59]

LB.

I hauled a 12x12 building a mile-1/2 and won't haul another one because it was so top heavy. We jacked up the building and backed the trailer under it, then
** i had to buy 6x6 timbers and stacked them so the building would be above the fenders.





*This happened on Wednesday the 11th- last week.

*Real sorry to hear about this.

**Which probably didn't didn't help any with the top heaviness.
That's why I was thinking Deck over rather than between fenders.

 

[LBrown59]

I'm beginning to get the feeling that finding the desired combination of truck , trailer and tractor that will complement each other by all working together is going to be more difficult than it was to select the proper tractor and attachments that met my needs.

 

[J_J]

There is just to much stuff out there., and the choices we have to make.

 

[LBrown59]

I think it's to many wrong choices and not enough of the right choices complicating the matter.

There is just to much stuff out there., and the choices we have to make.

 

[J_J]

I think it's to many wrong choices and not enough of the right choices complicating the matter.

Does anyone make a deck-over with the back half tilt down?

 

[farmboy12]

Does anyone make a deck-over with the back half tilt down?

Yes, I believe PJ does. I know a lot of others do too.


Kyle

 

[LBrown59]

Yes, I believe PJ does. I know a lot of others do too.


Kyle

It would be nice to see some pictures of them.

 

[J_J]

This is the trailer I was looking for, Deckover with back half tilt.

 

[jwstewar]

This is the trailer I was looking for, Deckover with back half tilt.

Nice trailer, but I believe that is overkill for LB and his little BX.

LB I think you are making this a way more difficult decision than what it really is. If you were commercial hauling lots of different heavy equipment everyday, but for an occasional hauling of something small like a BX.

I think you are kidding yourself if you think you will be hauling buildings on a trailer anyway - how often are you going to do something like that? Unless you are going to start building a selling them. Then there is a reason why the guys that do it use the big roll back trucks. Too much wind resistance/top heavy. Unless you move up to a really big trailer or something like what J J posted.

 

[J_J]

That trailer I posted is only 20 , or 22 ft. Here is the link. What is the total length of a med size trsctor with a bush hog attached?

PJ Trailers- Ferguson Trailersales Dover MN And Rochester MN Locations Offer PJ Trailers, Dump Trailers, Car Haulers, Utility, Deckovers, Pintle, Tilt Bed Trailers, And Tow Dollys

 

[farmboy12]

This is the trailer I was looking for, Deckover with back half tilt.

That trailer I posted is only 20 , or 22 ft. Here is the link. What is the total length of a med size trsctor with a bush hog attached?

PJ Trailers- Ferguson Trailersales Dover MN And Rochester MN Locations Offer PJ Trailers, Dump Trailers, Car Haulers, Utility, Deckovers, Pintle, Tilt Bed Trailers, And Tow Dollys

First, that's a hydraulic dove trailer. I thought you meant a tilt trailer with 4-5' in the front that are stationary.

Second, a BX is VERY small. A garden tractor with ROPS. And, I don't even think he has a bush hog, but he does have backhoe that is a little smaller than a bush hog, and it's maneuverable. He'd be fine with 14ft. it'd be tight, but it'd work.


Kyle

 

[JohnDeere4300]

This is the trailer I was looking for, Deckover with back half tilt.

LB,

If you decide to haul bigger loads, then get a bigger truck and the trailer that J_J found would be the best, for hauling buildings__etc...

 

[J_J]

First, that's a hydraulic dove trailer. I thought you meant a tilt trailer with 4-5' in the front that are stationary.

Second, a BX is VERY small. A garden tractor with ROPS. And, I don't even think he has a bush hog, but he does have backhoe that is a little smaller than a bush hog, and it's maneuverable. He'd be fine with 14ft. it'd be tight, but it'd work.


Kyle

Kyle.

The trailer I posted above is still called a tilt bed because it doesn't have fold up ramps. All dovetails have fold-up ramps. The trailer that I have now is an 18 foot deck-over, with a 7 foot add on dovetail with ramps. I may change it to hydraulic dovetail in the future, or hydraulic ramps

 

[farmboy12]

J J-
It technically does have a dovetail. Just looks like a normal flat deck while driving on the road. But I don't want to start any arguments.

P.S.-
I've seen that 2nd pic on here before. I wonder if LB can see what's wrong with it...


Kyle