TRUCK AND TRAILER TEAM.

JB4310 · Feb 13, 2009

LBrown59 said:
WHICH ONE WOULD YOU PICK

I came across these 2 trailers.
Used 2007 16' tilt trailer dual brakes
$2000.

New 18'7'' dove tail car hauler $2400.

Your OP you wanted an 18 footer, can't beat the car hauler for cars, maybe tractors and some equipment.

The tilt beds are all the rage now for contractors who are taking equipment off and on everyday, not having to deal with ramps is nice.

I'm still looking for a decent used 5 ton equipment trailer, for a reasonable price, been scouring Craigslist and other classified ads. The car haulers are usually a little cheaper but I'd rather have the full wood deck and for my expected occasional use I don't mind dealing with the ramps.

Good luck, JB.

LBrown59 · Feb 13, 2009

JB4310 said:
Your OP you wanted an 18 footer, can't beat the car hauler for cars, maybe tractors and some equipment.

The tilt beds are all the rage now for contractors who are taking equipment off and on everyday, not having to deal with ramps is nice.

I'm still looking for a decent used 5 ton equipment trailer, for a reasonable price, been scouring Craigslist and other classified ads.
The car haulers are usually a little cheaper but I'd rather have the full wood deck and for my expected occasional use I don't mind dealing with the ramps.

Good luck, JB.

This car hauler has a full wood deck.

scoutcub · Feb 13, 2009

LB59:
(my future neighbor)
I'll give you the benefit of my experience to further complicate your decision.
I have a 2006 F-350 diesel dually usually pulling a 24' equipment 14K trailer. I've added an extra leaf to the pack, a superhitch, and goodyear air bags. I've had my 4000 lb camper in the bed (5000 bed capacity) pulling my small 7X12' loaded trailer with no problem. I've had 4 compact tractors on the 24' trailer for a 600 mile trip with absolutely no problem. (about 18K trailer& load) The deckover is 8' wide, and sits around 32-34" inches off the ground, with a solid reinforced ramp in the back. (easy load & offload) I've got it chipped, and amsoiled throughout, it gets 11-12 mpg loaded, 15-16 empty. Obviously rides better with a load, but very comfortable/manageable without.
Sounds like you don't need/want the dually, so f-250 diesel sound up your alley...6.4 is worse than the 6.0 for mileage, and 7.3 beats the 6.0. Depends on how far back you want to go, and what kind of mileage you're willing to accept. Carefully consider the 03/04 6.0's, they had the issues. Good luck and have fun shopping!

George2615 · Feb 13, 2009

LBrown59 said:
Which trailer do you like the best?

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I don't know but I'm starting to get the feeling that putting a truck and trailer together is going to be no easy task.

Of my trailers I have used the 20' tilt bed the most. In fact I recently sold my goose neck deck over because I didn't have enough use for it. Only have the tilt bed by H&H now and it does all I need it to do. No ramps to worry about either.

As far as the 2 you posted, Its a toss up. I like having a tilt bed but I also like having a larger trailer. Mine has removable fenders makes for easier side loading and no ramps to worry about.

JohnDeere4300 · Feb 13, 2009

LBrown59 said:
1*I understand this but how would you load something like this little building that is wider than the space between your fenders?

Had I had a trailer like I'm talking about back in Nov. when I bought this building I could have hauled it myself and saved the 150 i paid to have this truck deliver it.

Sorry LB,

Could not get back to this.

I lost my only brother to a accident.

farmboy12 · Feb 13, 2009

LB-
Why are you worried about loading from the side? You can always drive up the ramps to drop your load...

Kyle

Diamondpilot · Feb 13, 2009

johndeere4300 said:
Sorry LB,

Could not get back to this.

I lost my only brother to a accident.

Sorry to hear about your brother.

Chris

JB4310 · Feb 13, 2009

johndeere4300 said:
Sorry LB,

Could not get back to this.

I lost my only brother to a accident.

OMG, I'm so sorry,

You have my deepest sympathy.
JB.

LBrown59 · Feb 13, 2009

George2615 said:
Of my trailers I have used the 20' tilt bed the most. In fact I recently sold my goose neck deck over because I didn't have enough use for it. Only have the tilt bed by H&H now and it does all I need it to do. No ramps to worry about either.
As far as the 2 you posted, Its a toss up. I like having a tilt bed but I also like having a larger trailer.
Mine has removable fenders makes
for easier side loading and
no ramps to worry about.

I like the removable fender idea, but it still leaves the wheels above the bed floor.
That's what attracts me to a tilt bed.

LBrown59 · Feb 13, 2009

farmboy12 said:
LB-
Why are you worried about loading from the side? You can always drive up the ramps to drop your load...
Kyle

Which is exactly what I'm trying to avoid having to do.
Loading and unloading with the tractor on the ground is much safer than running up and down ramps with a loader full of stuff.

JB4310 · Feb 13, 2009

LBrown59 said:
I like the removable fender idea, but it still leaves the wheels above the bed floor.
That's what attracts me to a tilt bed.

All the tilt beds I've seen have fenders, I've only seen a few but never seen a deck over tilt bed, that would probably make for to steep a deck to drive up.

JB.

farmboy12 · Feb 13, 2009

LBrown59 said:
Which is exactly what I'm trying to avoid having to do.
Loading and unloading with the tractor on the ground is much safer than running up and down ramps with a loader full of stuff.

True, but you gotta do what you gotta do. It can be done. Also, what ever happened to your rollback idea? That be better for you, a heavy truck, rollback, deckover...and older ones can be had pretty cheap. 1-2 ton rollbacks don't need liscenses.

JB4310 said:
All the tilt beds I've seen have fenders, I've only seen a few but never seen a deck over tilt bed, that would probably make for to steep a deck to drive up.

JB.

Deck over tilt beds are actually fairly common. A lot of construction company's have them. We've thought about getting one.

Kyle

shvl73 · Feb 13, 2009

JD4300, I'm very sorry to hear of your loss.

LBrown59 · Feb 13, 2009

johndeere4300 said:
I lost my only brother to an accident.

Sorry to hear about your brother.
When did it happen?

LBrown59 · Feb 14, 2009

farmboy12 said:
what ever happened to your rollback idea? Kyle

There is a roll back in the paper for $9850.
There is also a Ford 350 1 ton pick up for $14900 and
A new 17'7'' Car Hauler trailer for $2400.
I must admit 9850 for the roll back is less than 17300 for the
Pick up and trailer.

JB4310 · Feb 14, 2009

LB,
How about this one?

Mini Max Tilt Bed in 5 & 6 Ton Models

JB.

JohnDeere4300 · Feb 15, 2009

LB,

* Did you buy a truck and trailer yet.*

FredH · Feb 15, 2009

Back a way's , someone mentioned that older pick ups were not as capable of hauling as newer trucks . News Flash !!! My '84 F-250 4x4 , although it looks rough , has on numerous occasions out hauled any current make of truck from 1/2 tons to 1 ton duals . 2600 pounds of landscape block hardly makes it squat . When we use to have a pellet stove , would haul not 1 but 2 tons of pellets at a time , ( course then I got smart an found out they only charged $35 for delivery including unload and stack

) My pick-up weighs in at 5280 with 1 tank full , max I have ever weighed was 10,880 , but had both tanks full and practically entire work shop stuffed behind seat . Was hauling sand gravel mix for cement .

Although load weight is important as is distribution of that weight , driving style is all to often the culprit of bent or broken axles , springs , etc.... . Simply put , normally you just fly down the road hitting them small potholes or those railroad tracks , etc... , when empty , BUT loaded , even with a small load of 500 or 1000 pounds , loaded incorrectly , A repair bill may not be to far behind .

Could tell many a story of loading next to newer 1/2 , 3/4 an 1 ton duals the last couple of years doing all the landscaping to finish our place and watching them freak with 1/2 yard or 1 yard of material and I would have 2 yards dump into bed . The kid in the loader loved it .

Take Care .

Fred H.

George2615 · Feb 15, 2009

I think Fred's talking about my previous post (#17). I only stated what the manufacturers recommended tow ratings were a few years ago. Any idiot / person with a pickup can hook up to a 20K loaded trailer or put 4K into a pickup bed if they choose to do so and the truck will probably pull it although stopping may be a problem. I just don't want to be around them on the road. I have a neighbor who regularly hauls a 18K excavator on a 20K goose neck with a 1T dually. I estimate his loaded trailer weighs about 24-25K and is well above what his truck is rated for. That doesn't make it legal or safe. My posts are only to assist the poster (LB) in choosing the right vehicle and trailer for what he wants to do and be legal. I have a 2500HD with Duramax / Allison that is rated for towing 15,800. I know the truck could easily tow 25K but I won't do it. Have I ever exceeded my rated capacity? Sure I have. I think everyone who owns a pickup has exceeded its rated capacity at one time or another whether they realize it or not, it just doesn't make it legal.

LBrown59 · Feb 15, 2009

FredH said:
Back a way's , someone mentioned that older pick ups were not as capable of hauling as newer trucks . News Flash !!! My '84 F-250 4x4 , although it looks rough , has on numerous occasions out hauled any current make of truck from 1/2 tons to 1 ton duals . 2600 pounds of landscape block hardly makes it squat . When we use to have a pellet stove , would haul not 1 but 2 tons of pellets at a time , ( course then I got smart an found out they only charged $35 for delivery including unload and stack ) My pick-up weighs in at 5280 with 1 tank full , max I have ever weighed was 10,880 , but had both tanks full and practically entire work shop stuffed behind seat . Was hauling sand gravel mix for cement .

Although load weight is important as is distribution of that weight , driving style is all to often the culprit of bent or broken axles , springs , etc.... . Simply put , normally you just fly down the road hitting them small potholes or those railroad tracks , etc... , when empty , BUT loaded , even with a small load of 500 or 1000 pounds , loaded incorrectly , A repair bill may not be to far behind .

Could tell many a story of loading next to newer 1/2 , 3/4 an 1 ton duals the last couple of years doing all the landscaping to finish our place and watching them freak with 1/2 yard or 1 yard of material and I would have 2 yards dump into bed . The kid in the loader loved it .
Fred H.