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   / Your towing rigs and trailers #3,781  
Sure... If you turn them up. In stock form a 5.9 won't out pull anything, gutless dog of an engine. Sounds cool while you're being passed by everything else on the road though.








Flame suit on ;)

Yup, I forgot the disclaimer, none of my 5.9's are stock:D However, I will say this: In 1990 when I installed the 180/457 (5.9) in my Ford dually there was not another stock pickup at that time with 457 tq. Then when I turned it up, 260/700, I pretty much had free rein of the hammer lane. Now that truck stays in the slow lane....
 
   / Your towing rigs and trailers #3,782  
When you have to use extremes for an example, I will too...besides, 15k is far outside the ecoboost rating.

Why not use a DD15?

That's the thing with extremes...we can one up each other all day.

Your right, the CGI came out in 2011 with the 6.7 powerstroke. A lot of tech from that motor flowed over to the 3.5 ecoboost. But the purpose of the 3.5 and 6.7 are different, agree?

Well, to be honest, YOU were the one comparing them. :laughing:

Thats why Im coming back at you a little hard. The 6.7L Cummins is a medium duty diesel truck engine rating.

You can get a GCWR of 40,000lbs with a 6.7L in a RAM 2500. If you put an ecoboost mill under the hood, it would be toast after a couple thousand miles with those loads. Now I know the ecoboost is an F-150 engine, but they really arent comparable in the truck world. Im sorry, theres just no way.
 
   / Your towing rigs and trailers #3,783  
When you have to use extremes for an example, I will too...besides, 15k is far outside the ecoboost rating.

Why not use a DD15?

That's the thing with extremes...we can one up each other all day.

Your right, the CGI came out in 2011 with the 6.7 powerstroke. A lot of tech from that motor flowed over to the 3.5 ecoboost. But the purpose of the 3.5 and 6.7 are different, agree?

OK, so lets play with lower weight ratings.
Would you rather constantly or routinely pull a 10,000lb trailer (I believe thats in the weight range of an F-150) with an ecoboost engine, or a 6.7L Cummins?
Please answer that question, then I will know how serious of a truck person you are.
 
   / Your towing rigs and trailers #3,784  
Well, to be honest, YOU were the one comparing them. :laughing:

Thats why Im coming back at you a little hard. The 6.7L Cummins is a medium duty diesel truck engine rating.

You can get a GCWR of 40,000lbs with a 6.7L in a RAM 2500. If you put an ecoboost mill under the hood, it would be toast after a couple thousand miles with those loads. Now I know the ecoboost is an F-150 engine, but they really arent comparable in the truck world. Im sorry, theres just no way.

contrasting them is not comparing them to be equals. Subtle, but linguistly a big difference. :thumbsup:
 
   / Your towing rigs and trailers #3,785  
OK, so lets play with lower weight ratings.
Would you rather constantly or routinely pull a 10,000lb trailer (I believe thats in the weight range of an F-150) with an ecoboost engine, or a 6.7L Cummins?
Please answer that question, then I will know how serious of a truck person you are.

The engine could do it all day.

The chassis would be better under a more rigid frame.

A truck is a package, not just an engine.
 
   / Your towing rigs and trailers #3,786  
Yup, I forgot the disclaimer, none of my 5.9's are stock:D However, I will say this: In 1990 when I installed the 180/457 (5.9) in my Ford dually there was not another stock pickup at that time with 457 tq. Then when I turned it up, 260/700, I pretty much had free rein of the hammer lane. Now that truck stays in the slow lane....

I'd take a 5.9L Cummins over any gas engine in production today. Even with a low power rating, it can be cheaply and easily unleashed into a great puller. With a B rating far longer than anything gas out today, great fuel economy and longevity well into the 250-500K range.....easy decision. Thats comparing a 30+ year old diesel to the newest turbocharged gas-hog gasser.
 
   / Your towing rigs and trailers #3,787  
The engine could do it all day.

The chassis would be better under a more rigid frame.

A truck is a package, not just an engine.

See, youre jumping around and avoiding the questions I posed.
Im not talking about a chassis...WE were comparing ENGINES. I didnt say the ecoboost wouldnt do it....;)

Give you one more chance, if you had to pull 10,000lbs around constantly, which engine would you pick, a Ford ecoboost or a 6.7L Cummins? :confused3:
 
   / Your towing rigs and trailers #3,788  
Your question is meant to steer in only one direction by asking a question that only looks at one aspect of a larger question. However the question about an engine alone is only looking at one side of the equation while ignoring the other elephant in the room. Most truck guys will select a truck based upon a chassis first and engine second. This isn't my first rodeo about baited questions.

I'm pretty comfortable with my answer.
 
   / Your towing rigs and trailers #3,789  
You guys might wanna go into PMs for the rest of this back-n-forth. I'm definitely not interested nor does it add value to the OP's subject at hand. Others might not be interested in your banter either. Just a reminder -

"Lets see your towing rigs.(truck,trailer,tractor) the more pics the better.I know I never get tired of the pics you guys post.

Matt T."
 
   / Your towing rigs and trailers #3,790  
I went plowing with my truck and trailer sometime in the summer. :)

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   / Your towing rigs and trailers #3,791  
You guys might wanna go into PMs for the rest of this back-n-forth. I'm definitely not interested nor does it add value to the OP's subject at hand. Others might not be interested in your banter either. Just a reminder -

"Lets see your towing rigs.(truck,trailer,tractor) the more pics the better.I know I never get tired of the pics you guys post.

Matt T."

I think it's beneficial to debate these things, someone will learn something.
 
   / Your towing rigs and trailers #3,792  
So the question for some is; do I really want to bounce around in that rattly diesel pickup every day,,when a lighter, less expensive truck will pull my tractor for the few times that I need to every year?

BINGO !!! I have had two f250's and one f350 with the 6.7 powerstroke diesel... Yes I miss the torque and hp, but not the ride. I'm waiting for the new powerboost to arrive...
 
   / Your towing rigs and trailers #3,793  
Your question is meant to steer in only one direction by asking a question that only looks at one aspect of a larger question. However the question about an engine alone is only looking at one side of the equation while ignoring the other elephant in the room. Most truck guys will select a truck based upon a chassis first and engine second. This isn't my first rodeo about baited questions.

I'm pretty comfortable with my answer.

And... you can't argue against stupid.
 
   / Your towing rigs and trailers #3,795  
Because this post has gotten to be less pictures and more arguing and point making.......

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My little rig

Really liking the Canyon with the little diesel.
 
   / Your towing rigs and trailers #3,796  
So the question for some is; do I really want to bounce around in that rattly diesel pickup every day,,when a lighter, less expensive truck will pull my tractor for the few times that I need to every year?

Theres 2 points you make, but they could be expanded into several other areas.
One point I would make is my truck doesnt bounce around or rattle (inside). Thats a thing of the past. Im on like my 30th diesel HD truck. In the latest versions, you go outside and it has a nice diesel snort, but inside, you barely hear anything. Theres little difference in the cabin enviroment between a diesel or gas pickup in terms of noise, or " rattle " as you call it. In fact, a gas truck with off road tires would make a lot more noise than todays diesel with quiet highway tires.
But the second point you make about pulling a small tractor around a few times a year is definitely a case for a light duty truck with a gas engine. I dont know what type of weight you are towing, though.
Youd never get your money back on a Powerstroke, Duramax or Cummins unless you tow heavy or drive 15,000 or more miles per year. In fact, it actually is bad NOT to run a diesel good and hard frequently. It allows soot to build up in the DPF.
I have no choice, there isnt a gas engine offered that will pull much more than 30,000lbs... even the vaunted 2.5L ecoboost :rolleyes:
I'm pulling 44,000lbs 2 times a week so the choice is made for me.
Your choice sounds pretty easy, too.
 
   / Your towing rigs and trailers #3,797  
My old friend...things are pretty tame around here these days.

Maybe you 2 oughta get a room :laughing:
You can talk ecoboosts over a nice chardonnay
 

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