Your towing rigs and trailers

[nisaacs]

With the engineered beam and the super singles that lightens up that trailer nicely, giving more hauling capacity. I wish they were wider on the deck overs just for looks.

I agree. That's why I am looking at the FMAX208, it comes with the wide frame. My guess is, the 10-12k super single flatbeds come with the narrow frame, is, that way they can be fitted with duals or singles.

I think Hay Dude was asking about super singles on dump trailers, for some reason Diamond C de-rates the 10k axles with 215/75x17.5 tires. Yet the flatbed 10k's come with 235/75x17.5 as they should.

 

[Hay Dude]

I agree. That's why I am looking at the FMAX208, it comes with the wide frame. My guess is, the 10-12k super single flatbeds come with the narrow frame, is, that way they can be fitted with duals or singles.

I think Hay Dude was asking about super singles on dump trailers, for some reason Diamond C de-rates the 10k axles with 215/75x17.5 tires. Yet the flatbed 10k's come with 235/75x17.5 as they should.

So one more time for posterity:
The Diamond C deck over dump with 10k axles and super singles is NOT able to be fitted with the 235/75x17.5 tires? That seems sooooo stupid.

Feels like I am at the point where I buy the trailer with under-specd tires, then upon receiving trailer, I upfit them with the 235s so I can load the trailer the way I want??? Is that the answer?

Dave’s Tractor, you seem to know the DC trailer well. Would you have time to help my local dealer build what I want? :laughing:

 

[CADplans]

Nice load of hay today

Are there 27 bales, or hmmmmmmmmmm,, I only seem to be able to count 22 bales?

 

[ArlyA]

Weekend of towing for us...

 

[Hay Dude]

Are there 27 bales, or hmmmmmmmmmm,, I only seem to be able to count 22 bales?

It was in the process of being unloaded in the picture. Note the straps are off the load.
Actually had 28 bales, but 6 were already unloaded. See scale ticket picture.
Here is 28 bale load.

 

[Snobdds]

Still Impressive.

 

[Xfaxman]

Yep, I can only haul 8, 5x6 bales on my 14k trailer:

 

[DavesTractor]

So one more time for posterity:
The Diamond C deck over dump with 10k axles and super singles is NOT able to be fitted with the 235/75x17.5 tires? That seems sooooo stupid.

Feels like I am at the point where I buy the trailer with under-specd tires, then upon receiving trailer, I upfit them with the 235s so I can load the trailer the way I want??? Is that the answer?

Dave痴 Tractor, you seem to know the DC trailer well. Would you have time to help my local dealer build what I want? :laughing:

I've never ordered a deck over dump with super singles, so I am not up to speed on the tire issue on that trailer. While I own our business (or perhaps it owns me...) I have a trailer manager that does all ordering and sorts out these sort of questions. I do not understand why they will not fit the 235/75x17.5 tires. Physically they should fit.

Have your local dealer get on the phone with Diamond C and ask for a clear answer. Diamond C will generally build about whatever you want, so long as everything fits. There are some limitations, for example when ordering heavier axles for the LPD trailer (between the fender type, not deck over) there can be an issue with the larger brake drums on certain axle combinations not being compatible with the frame width. In that case it just won't fit.

 

[Hay Dude]

Still Impressive.

I can actually do 30 bales. The 8x8 deck on the neck platform has just enough space for it. Id be too overloaded at that point-probably close to 50,000GCWR.
I was trying to build a truck/trailer rig that would handle 26 or more 1000 pound round bales, fit in my house garage, carry 5 people, have 4WD capability and comfortable enough for long trips with modern conveniences.

 

[Peter 315]

I can actually do 30 bales. The 8x8 deck on the neck platform has just enough space for it. Id be too overloaded at that point-probably close to 50,000GCWR.
I was trying to build a truck/trailer rig that would handle 26 or more 1000 pound round bales, fit in my house garage, carry 5 people, have 4WD capability and comfortable enough for long trips with modern conveniences.

What no kitchen sink.....

 

[Hay Dude]

What no kitchen sink.....

Sure! Plenty of room for kitchen sink in the back seat
But seriously, I can’t afford much one trick pony equipment. I like buying versatility. A tractor trailer wouldn’t have been able to do much more than haul hay or fertilizer.

 

[4570Man]

Sure! Plenty of room for kitchen sink in the back seat
But seriously, I can’t afford much one trick pony equipment. I like buying versatility. A tractor trailer wouldn’t have been able to do much more than haul hay or fertilizer.

But you can buy decent day cab tractors pretty cheap.

 

[Hay Dude]

But you can buy decent day cab tractors pretty cheap.

I played that scenario over and over and I’ve owned them in the past. Even thought of buying an all wheel drive day cab.....
Most of my fields are difficult to load a longer, heavier trailer and worse, they usually require 4wd to get out to the road. Perfect weather (dry fields) are one in maybe 10 days around here. My main buyer accepts hay from 5AM to 3PM M-F only. So that really narrows down the times I can bring in hay.

Ive done the right thing. I like the 4wd, like the crew cab, like the maneuverability, like that it fits in my garage. I can get out, take off my work boots and go in the house. No need to switch trucks anymore. Been there done that. Only give back is a tractor trailer can carry 10 more bales per trip. May have saved up front, but repairs, brakes, tires, storage headaches, winter started, lack of traction would be worse.

 

[Snobdds]

I would go the 5500 over the day cab in today's world too.

20 years ago that might not be the case.

 

[Hay Dude]

I would go the 5500 over the day cab in today's world too.

20 years ago that might not be the case.

I found several single axle 4WD IH7400 digger derrick trucks with digger removed in the $35K-$45K range. By the time I shortened the frame, added a 5th wheel, tractor air package and fixed all the broken stuff, I was probably close to 55K range and it was far from a new truck. Reliability may be an issue.
I like the smaller, new crew cab truck this time around. I may look into a big 4WD again in a few years for other work I do.

 

[gatorguy7]

Picked up some culvert to repair a collapsed pipe on the ranch. Picked up the first load of hay for my dad. He likes to feed square bales to a few heifers around his house. I'll be picking up round bales in the next few weeks. A lot of places are still baling hay in Florida believe it or now.

 

[Hay Dude]

Picked up some culvert to repair a collapsed pipe on the ranch. Picked up the first load of hay for my dad. He likes to feed square bales to a few heifers around his house. I'll be picking up round bales in the next few weeks. A lot of places are still baling hay in Florida believe it or now.

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Thats a really nice trailer

 

[Peter 315]

Thats a really nice trailer

Here we go.............:laughing:

 

[4570Man]

I just picked up a new to me dump trailer. I’ve never been a fan of these but I needed one to haul trash. I just got it yesterday but so far I’m liking the lower load height and I think it would be cool to hook on my excavator blade to pull around and load.

 

[dodge man]

Nice dump trailer, you can store it at my place for free.