Yanmar / Tractor Newbie

[FL_Jerry]

The property I have is flat, so a ROPS wasn't high on my list and I didn't tow anything...yet. After going up the ramps on my trailer a couple of times, I got the ROPS. I feel much better now, but I'm $600 or so poorer

Jerry

 

[pruntyc]

Wayne, I have to say, you are right in the case of almost everyone thinks,"it won't happen to me". That is just the way people are, having been in the ministry to some extent, most of my life, I have found that is just the way people are. Bad things always happen to other people, but it just won't happen to me, for some reason or other. Just my two cents worth.

 

[buppy69]

I always load my tractor on the trailer backwards. I don't like backing downhill.

Eugene

 

[Soundguy]

"Not necessarily, anything that stops the tractor when you have good traction will do it, such as catching your boxblade on an immovable root, and lifting the frontend. It's happened to me several times.

Except that catching a boxblade on a root is still extremely unlikely to cause a roll over, as the box blade, attached behind the lift bars will positively stall the tractor well before it is at an angle that will make it go over.

Soundguy

 

[Soundguy]

Chris, please re-read my post. .

I did.. sounds vauge as to 'what group' you are directing it to.. thus my comment about blanket statement. There was no well defined target group other than people.

. Perhaps it would have been more clear if I had said "It seems to be a natural human tendency to want to ascribe reasons to a disaster so we can then say THAT SOME OF those reasons don't enter into our situation, thus we are safe". Even on re-reading it, I don't think it proposes a myopic viewpoint.

Still blanket in scope of target ( people ).. though more selective on content.

My coment on near sighted is due to the fact that your comment seems to overlook the vast number of completely valid reasons that people may have for determining cause to an accident. Instead of "natural human tendency....don't enter into our situation" ( a 'not me' type of scenerio )What about a sincere desire to prevent future problems by investigating the accident.. determining why it happened, and then using that date to prevent it from happening.

I don't think there is a right or wrong here... just more of an issue of different choices for determining the reason of an accident, rather than solely to use it as an exclusion in ones own habits. At any rate.. we may just have to agree to disagree on the scope of that message as it pertains to people and their motivation for investigating accidents...

Soundguy

 

[Soundguy]

Yep.. doing dangerous things is a game of odds.

Experience helps bias the odds on your side, however.. eventually everyone's number comes up.

I've never been in a rear roll ver situation.. but was close to a side roll during a trailering incedent.. I almost drove my NAA off the front of my trailer when my wet 'deck' show slipped of f the clutch.

I had dropped my NAA off to get a new rear tire. Normally I just tape the rim in.. but these were large 16.9x24 and I couldn't budge them. I came by after work to pick it up, and it was starting to rain, so i drove it up ont he trailer quick.. foot slipped, tractor lurched forward at an angle and one half the axle actually made it over. I managed to get a brake and clutch stomped and stoppe dthe tractor about an inch from my tail gate.

Tractor was at a very bad angle on the trailer. We had to block and crib the trailer and get the truck out of there so we had room to jack the front of the trailer up with timber and floor jacks from the tire store. then used the trailer ramps to reverse the tractor enough so that the tractor front axle was back on the deck.... though at a hard angle.. had to then back her down and off, reattach truck and reload. Backing off the unhitched trailer was white knuckling...

In the end I was lucky. -0- damage to tractor.. -0- damage to truck. and the only damage to the trailer was that the bumper knocked off a 59 cent spring clip on the trailer tounge jack handle. ( besides the factt hat the ordeal took some time off my life and my shorts had a hole bit in them from me clamping down on that metal pan seat... )

Soundguy

I always made sure it was steady and I went up and down slowly. My neighbor who does construction came over to help me get housewrap on the second story and he was standing on one foot leaning way out and the ladder was going sideways. He would also move the ladder by jumping it while he was on it. Stupidity? I thought so! But he was someone who had done this numerous times and hadn't had an accident. Of course some of us are riskier than others too. I guess my point is everyone knows experience makes a big difference, but just because you have a lot of experience and haven't had an accident, practice good safety anyways. Accidents can happen to anyone at anytime. If we knew they were coming we wouldn't be doing whatever caused them!

 

[normde2001]

Good point Chris, I had not thought of that. Assuming the toplink and bracing held up, it would have acted as a wheelie bar.

 

[RobJ]

The property I have is flat, so a ROPS wasn't high on my list and I didn't tow anything...yet. After going up the ramps on my trailer a couple of times, I got the ROPS. I feel much better now, but I'm $600 or so poorer

Jerry

I'm guessing you have a higher type flat bed instead of a low bow. Most of the 16' tandems I see people using are only a foot or so off the ground. My flat bed with 20.5 tires is still about 25 inches up.

 

[RobJ]

I always load my tractor on the trailer backwards. I don't like backing downhill.

Eugene

Be care ful of the tract loading backwards police. I'dont see a problem but some do. Maybe the bigger it is the worse it is. I still load mine front, but I know what you mean by backing up hills, same feeling on an ATV.

 

[roxynoodle]

Mine has a loader and seems to go onto the trailer better backwards. Same with inclines; goes up better backwards and down better forwards.