XJ2025 Owners?

[skysensor]

I'll be buying a small (25hp class) tractor loader with a mid-mount mower sometime between now and spring. I've become interested in the new XJ, based strictly upon the published specs compared to others in the class. Precious little noise about it on any of the usual forums, however. Any owners out there who can share their experience, good and bad? Thanks.

 

[Olympus]

I haven't seen anyone post about owning one here. I bought the 2023 earlier this year and I've been happy with it. I don't know what upgrades the XJ has other than a better seat. Not much info on them here.

 

[Bigfoot56]

I'll be buying a small (25hp class) tractor loader with a mid-mount mower sometime between now and spring. I've become interested in the new XJ, based strictly upon the published specs compared to others in the class. Precious little noise about it on any of the usual forums, however. Any owners out there who can share their experience, good and bad? Thanks.[/QUOTe


Howdy skysensor, I just bought an LS J2023H yesterday. It was the last tier3 model they had available in my area. Paid $ 16,700 tax out the door with a FEL, box-blade, & 4' tiller. They had a new XJ2025 in stock. It's about $1,000 more. It has 1hp less than the J model, is a tier4 engine (still Mitsubishi) & has a blue dash panel. It will be awhile before I can give an accurate review on it but after I've used it a bit I'll do a review.

 

[Bigfoot56]

I haven't seen anyone post about owning one here. I bought the 2023 earlier this year and I've been happy with it. I don't know what upgrades the XJ has other than a better seat. Not much info on them here.

Just picked up the same tractor you have. I was wondering how many hours you have on it, what kind of implements you are using, & if you have encountered any problems.

 

[antlers125]

I own a 2023. I have had it almost a year & has been excellent. It has 60hrs on it. Just 1 tip -definitely want to load the rear tires- due to lifting capacity. This is a great tractor for the price-$12,300.00. The only difference that I have read is the 2025 has a newer seat which changed the dash area a little & the 2025 may have a tier 4 engine.

 

[Bigfoot56]

I own a 2023. I have had it almost a year & has been excellent. It has 60hrs on it. Just 1 tip -definitely want to load the rear tires- due to lifting capacity. This is a great tractor for the price-$12,300.00. The only difference that I have read is the 2025 has a newer seat which changed the dash area a little & the 2025 may have a tier 4 engine.

I will definitely be putting water in the rear tires. In a shed somewhere?? is my old garden hose adapter. Yeah, a couple small changes & tier4 engine on the 2025 & they jacked the price. So far it seems like it will be able to do what I need. Dug out a little 4" oak stump today & moved some dirt. This little machine is gonna get worked hard so we will see how it goes. I need to buy or build bucket tooth bar as I've got a lot of trees & scrub to take out. I'll post a review once I put it through some hard work.

 

[Olympus]

I have enjoyed my tractor and I've been happy with it. Rimguard in the rear tires is a MUST. You'll need the extra weight for traction unless running in 4wd nonstop.

I have 60 hours on my tractor as well. Mine had a few problems, but the dealer took care of everything through warranty. It's 100% now.

 

[Bigfoot56]

I have enjoyed my tractor and I've been happy with it. Rimguard in the rear tires is a MUST. You'll need the extra weight for traction unless running in 4wd nonstop.

I have 60 hours on my tractor as well. Mine had a few problems, but the dealer took care of everything through warranty. It's 100% now.

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Thanks for the input. Years ago when I had a grading business (skid steers, tractors, excavator) I ran straight water in my tractor rears. Being on construction sites I would eventually find a nail or screw. I carried wooden dowel stock that I shaped into plugs. Ream the puncture hole out, seat my wooden dowel, cut off the excess flush with the surface & I was back in business. The wood swelled up nicely & I never had one come out. Initially I tried regular tire plugs but they always leaked. I ran commercial tire sealant in my skid steer tires & never had flats.

I'm thinking of a 3 point platform with a water barrel for ballast & maybe welding some metal rods on my box blade to stack weight for when I want the box on & I'm doing heavy digging. I have a lot of trees to take out. I've got some design ideas for something similar to a bolt on tooth bar but stronger & more aggressive. We will see how it goes.

 

[Olympus]

Just depends how you prefer to care for your equipment. Water will cause rust to the rim over time. Rim guard will not.

 

[jacob59]

How many gallons did you add per tire?
Jack

 

[Olympus]

Don't recall. Just told the tire shop to fill each tire 75% full.

 

[antlers125]

15 gal. Per tire. With Rimguard it adds 160lbs. per tire.

How many gallons did you add per tire?
Jack

 

[jacob59]

Thanks!

 

[Bigfoot56]

Just depends how you prefer to care for your equipment. Water will cause rust to the rim over time. Rim guard will not.

I appreciate any & all input & love to analyze all views, but for me it's not really a matter of caring for my equipment. It's about what is the most practical & cost effective for the long haul after completing a thorough analysis of viewpoints, facts, beliefs, & finally, real world experiences regarding whatever subject is in question.---

I ran straight water in a Kubota I owned for 10 years. While 10 years isn't a particularly long time, there were no signs of rust noticeable on the exterior of the rims other than light surface rust from paint wearing off. When I sold that particular tractor, the buyer had to haul it a long distance so we drained the water from the tires. The water did not look rusty. Interior of the rim? Dunno. I've had people tell me they ran straight water in their tires for 35 years & it did not rust out their wheels. I've read many threads where the old timers chimed in saying the same thing regarding straight water. Based on my actual real world experience & disregarding anything I've read or been told, I know I will get at least 10 years of service out of my straight water filled rims &probably more. ---

What does a set of rims cost for this machine versus the price of Rimguard? I'm thinking I could actually replace the rims cheaper. If I had a serious flat & lost my rimguard, I'd have to replace it= more $$. Being in Florida, freezing isn't an issue for me. Rimguard is obviously a good product, has more weight per equivalent volume of water, but has only been on the market for about 15 years & was not available when I owned my Kubotas. I'm sure that you are correct that water will cause rust over time. The question for me is what does 'over time' really mean ? I've heard/read all the stories on calcium chloride, I could definitely see salt water causing premature corrosion. I'm going to start with a homemade ballast box setup first & then go from there based on my results.---
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Estimating my rim life with straight water filled rims ( 10 years minimum ), having the ability & convenience to drain & refill at no cost (flats, etc.), & realizing that I can purchase a set of rims for about the same price as a one time shot of rimguard, I come down on the side of straight water. My viewpoint comes from owning/operating multiple types of rubber tired equipment with my business for 20 years & running other peoples equipment for 14-15 years prior to that.

 

[Olympus]

Different strokes for different folks. My way of thinking, if I just dropped $13-$14k on a brand new tractor, another $100 to use the more appropriate fluid to fill the tires doesn't seem like much of a cost at all. To me, that's like buying a brand new car and telling the dealer to remove the spare tire to save $100 because I've never had a flat before so I won't need the spare. I could probably buy a brand new tire for the same cost as buying the spare, right? Or buying a new car and skimping on the floor mats.

 

[ozley]

If I lived in a warm or above 32 deg area I would use water. There are plenty people that do.

 

[jacob59]

For 3 bucks a gallon you can get Rimgaurd "beatjuice". You get a heavier liquid 10lbs per gal vs 8lbs. Freezing point below -35 deg. and its a natural byproduct and easy on the enviroment. I just had my tires filled with it. Its worth the cost.
Buy something cheap and you got something cheap.
just my 2 cents.
Jack

 

[Bigfoot56]

Different strokes for different folks. My way of thinking, if I just dropped $13-$14k on a brand new tractor, another $100 to use the more appropriate fluid to fill the tires doesn't seem like much of a cost at all. To me, that's like buying a brand new car and telling the dealer to remove the spare tire to save $100 because I've never had a flat before so I won't need the spare. I could probably buy a brand new tire for the same cost as buying the spare, right? Or buying a new car and skimping on the floor mats.

I get that you like & use rim-guard, that's cool, lots of people do. I certainly don't knock anybody that does because lots of people have varied situations. I post here to tap into the vast knowledge of the thousands of contributors on this site & share in the things I have experience in. The day aint done unless I've learned something new !! Please realize that "the more appropriate fluid to fill the tires" is not based on a static set of facts. I gave you a concise example of another viewpoint based on decades of real world experience running equipment for a living, 10 years of actually running straight water in a set of rear tractor tires with no ill effects, as well as operating in a completely different environment. You gave me back a weird analogy about tires & floor mats. It's cool how much difference there is in the way people process information

I may not even need fluid in my tires although I'm inclined to thinking I do. The R4's aren't too bad on flat sandy soil which is what I have. I have only taken out a handful 4"-5" oaks so far with just a box blade for counterweight. I only had to dig down about 18" & traction wasn't a problem. I have a lot of heavy digging to do so I will start out with some adjustable ballast on the 3pt & go from there.

The $100+ I'll save not using rim-guard will go towards metal & materials for implements & add ons I'll be making. I'm drawing up some plans for a custom tooth bar, forks, boom, & trash rake as well as a 3pt tool bar for cultivation, towing trailers, & other things. I'll eventually post some pics of these things as well as some other stuff I built years ago.

Gotta roll. In the future I'd like to hear what you & other LS 2020,2023,2030 owners are doing with their tractors, what kind of implements you use, modifications made, problems you've encountered & so forth.

 

[jblackthorne]

What was the prices on those 60" MMM? I nearly bought a 2025 last weekend until the dealer said the MMM would be another $3000. Seems a bit unreasonable to me.

 

[antlers125]

$3000.00 is about right. You might want to consider a rear finish mower. Finish mowers are a lot more universal , so you can find a good used one for around $1500.00 . They are also much easier to hook up. The mid mount is tractor specific & it limits your usage while using the FEL.