Will UAW Strike?

[MoKelly]

I read beginning Jan 2024 everyone gets a $7500 tax credit for buying an electric car.

The $7500 comes right off the price at the dealer. Buyer doesn’t even have to have any taxable income.

 

[5030]

I read beginning Jan 2024 everyone gets a $7500 tax credit for buying an electric car.

The $7500 comes right off the price at the dealer. Buyer doesn’t even have to have any taxable income.

I see that as just another way to pee away your tax money. The gummit is always coming up with creative ways to spend what they don't have.

7500 bucks is chump change considering what a new EV costs today.

 

[5030]

As the strike drags on, I don't foresee the UAW coming out ahead anyway.

 

[Milo]

I read beginning Jan 2024 everyone gets a $7500 tax credit for buying an electric car.

The $7500 comes right off the price at the dealer. Buyer doesn’t even have to have any taxable income.

How about electric motorcycle???

 

[Gale Hawkins]

Not following your logic here. How does an auto strike by the Detroit 3 make EVs the only alternative? Anyone wishing to buy a new vehicle could (1) wait out the strike, (2) buy a vehicle that's already been built or (3) buy a vehicle made by a manufacturer not on strike.

Tesla lowered their prices because sales were soft, and 'most anyone willing to pay a premium for an EV already had done so.

You seem to be unaware that 2 new giga factories have come online so they're able to meet their demand better and the lower prices has been planned all along by Elon Musk. He clearly stated this year and next he's willing to sell at cost as long as he can get both of the new factories running full tilt. His stated goal is to be selling 20 million Tesla's a year by the end of 2030 and beyond. When you buy your new Tesla that will be 1/2,000,000 of the effort.

I am very pleased with past price cuts and future price cuts because that is the man's plan.

 

[5030]

I read somewhere that Harley Davidson actually sold 10 of them.

 

[MoKelly]

How about electric motorcycle???

There are state rebates on electric motorcycles between $500-$1500. Illinois will give you $1500.

 

[5030]

2 new giga factories have come online

What the heck is a giga factory? ... and I still will NEVER buy a toaster car anyway. I might consider a plug in hybrid but that is it.

 

[5030]

There are state rebates on electric motorcycles between $500-$1500. Illinois will give you $1500.

Again, chump change on a 25K plus toaster bike.

 

[5030]

Kinda sounds to me like the American based automakers are selling their domestic EV's at a loss or so they say. Read that they are taking a 45 grand hit on every one made. I'll have to take a drive up to Rouge assembly and see if the wad up there in the holding lots have dropped at all.... Maybe they are just waiting for them to self combust...lol

 

[Milo]

But not chump change on a $12k bike. 2023 Zero FX ZF7.2 ZC24382 | Kissell Motorsports

 

[lilranch2001]

I read beginning Jan 2024 everyone gets a $7500 tax credit for buying an electric car.

The $7500 comes right off the price at the dealer. Buyer doesn’t even have to have any taxable income.

Are they gonna rebuild your house and garage when the EV burns down in the middle of the night?

 

[paulsharvey]

Man there is some hate for EVs. Now, let me say, I dont want one; but for many people it's not a bad option (if the $$$ make sense). The answer to a Lot of this stuff is, Yes: yes to EVs, yes to gasoline, yes to diesel, yes to propane, yes to hydrogen, yes to ammonia. Think of this like a power grip; you want a mix of coal, hydro, gas, nuclear, and Also wind/solar, wave action, geothermal, If it can work from a dollar figure.

 

[lilranch2001]

I do not hate EV, but I do not want my ballz to be twisted to force me to buy one…..

 

[Snobdds]

Batteries work good in situations where a long charging time is not a huge concern. Home back up with solar for example.

Batteries do not work good in transportation circumstances where fast charging is key, especially when the competition can do it in 10 minutes.

With interest rates so high, companies no longer find profitability with low volume EV's numbers. That is why tesla has to turn to volume and low prices to compete.

 

[lilranch2001]

Also, resistance to EV is not a new phenomenon, back in the early 1900s I’m sure quite a few people did not jump on the new technology “internal combustion” engine technology either and stuck with their horses until that technology was Cost efficient and reliable

 

[ultrarunner]

Also, resistance to EV is not a new phenomenon, back in the early 1900s I’m sure quite a few people did not jump on the new technology “internal combustion” engine technology either and stuck with their horses until that technology was Cost efficient and reliable

Electric starter made a big difference taking ICE mainstream… especially when it was standard on the least expensive models.

That said, Mrs Henry Ford kept her Detroit Electric and the car was charged from hydro from their own home generator at Fairlane…

 

[paulsharvey]

I dont think this forum is an accurate representation of the average American. I would guess the average American probably drives like 12000 miles per year, or only 1000/month; or about 100 per work day. An EV would probably work in a house hold like that, assuming the infrastructure is in place. It also would probably be fine for a lot of 2 car house holds, one fuel and one battery. Personally, I drive my work car about 4000 miles/month, my personal truck about 1000 miles/month, wife drives about 1500/month, and teenage son drives about 2500/month. There's a lot of people who live 10 miles from work, 5 miles from groceries, heck, they might go dang near a week on a single charge, or only need to top off charge 10-15% per night.

My Hope is EV competition push the conventional makers to innovate/improve, kinda like the Japanese makers did in 80s, and we ended up with better vehicles for the competition.

 

[lilranch2001]

Electric starter made a big difference taking ICE mainstream… especially when it was standard on the least expensive models.

That said, Mrs Henry Ford kept her Detroit Electric and the car was charged from hydro from their own home generator at Fairlane…

Once again I did say resistance……

Along with, electric starting became mainstream in the late 20’s early 30’s?

Not sure what one millionaires wife has to do with the electric vehicle dominance of the early locomotion….

 

[Joel/ak]

My brother ordered a new EV Silverado last year. He's been talking it up, etc. That's cool, it's his thing.

I told him when he gets it, 1 big thing to even try and convince me to even think of EV is a tow and distance challenge. His EV vs my ice truck. Both with the same load. Trailer with the mini.

Who can go the farthest.

Ironically he touts EV's as he's sitting at Walmart for an hour trying to charge up his volt cuz couldn't make it home. I told him in 5 minutes I can be back on the road