Will UAW Strike?

/ Will UAW Strike? #641  
Finally, if anyone 'thinks' that my BIL, who is paid quite handsomely in his executive position at Fords is lazy or hides during working hours or steals from the company, you are DEAD wrong. He works his butt off, makes important decisions and brings his work home with him all the time. Far as I'm concerned, he earns every dime he makes and should make even more considering the responsibility he shoulders every day, where as the union rats on the assembly line have no responsibility other than to show up for work every day and even that is difficult for some of them, but then the union protects them. My BIL has no union protection, his only protection is job performance.
 
/ Will UAW Strike? #643  
If we can get rid of a few select areas, MI would be a solid red state. Never happen though.
Probably why the population of MI has declined over the past 2 years.
People are running out of the blue states to the red states.
 
/ Will UAW Strike? #644  
I posted in another thread that smart people are not buying new cars. A couple of members got their underwear in a knot over that.

I am not paying $60k for a new F150 when I can get a three year old model with 50k miles for $35k. IMO only an idiot would pay over $75k for the EV version.

I am very happy with both our ICE F150's but I may be buying a used Toyota next time.
 
/ Will UAW Strike? #645  
I posted in another thread that smart people are not buying new cars. A couple of members got their underwear in a knot over that.

I am not paying $60k for a new F150 when I can get a three year old model with 50k miles for $35k. IMO only an idiot would pay over $75k for the EV version.

I am very happy with both our ICE F150's but I may be buying a used Toyota next time.
Even 35 is too much IMO. A new F150 Lightening is pushing 100 grand. Not for me, ever.
 
/ Will UAW Strike? #647  
Probably why the population of MI has declined over the past 2 years.
People are running out of the blue states to the red states.

I posted in another thread that smart people are not buying new cars. A couple of members got their underwear in a knot over that.

I am not paying $60k for a new F150 when I can get a three year old model with 50k miles for $35k. IMO only an idiot would pay over $75k for the EV version.

I am very happy with both our ICE F150's but I may be buying a used Toyota next time.
Lot of posters on here that need to start wearing boxer shorts instead of briefs. Briefs tend to get wadded up more often....lol Lot of posters on here do get butt hurt quite easily from what I observe.

Interestingly as well, my hunting buddy in Indiana (who is the plant manager of a steel concern there has always been an American truck buyer (RAM) and he told me, he's bought the last domestic truck he will purchase (he buys a new pickup truck every couple years), he told me his next truck will be a Toyota. He's pretty teed off with the UAW and the UAW strike is impacting his company's business negatively as well as his paycheck, I presume.

One of my rental tenants just got laid off from her job at a 3rd tier supplier as well so now she gets to collect unemployment and gets to pay the full tilt on her healthcare as well. Least her old man is working but for how long is a crapshoot. Gonna be a hard way to go for them I suspect. I'll probably have to defer their rent payments, which I will. I am a somewhat compassionate person despite what I allude to on here...

From what I've been hearing around town and elsewhere, there a lot of people who are consumers and not affiliated with the UAW or automotive ( In reality, unionized autoworkers are a very distinct minority in the grand scheme of things), that aren't very happy about what the UAW and Fain is doing and the end result if the end result causes nothing but price increases on goods and food they buy. Real inflation and what the government talking heads state are 2 different things entirely.

My personal observations at the grocery store and other outlets is the real inflation rate is more like 12-15%. Like the motor oil I bought for the tractors went up through the roof as well as food stuffs. You do have to eat, last time I checked. Today, 100 bucks gets you almost nothing at the grocery store when in the past, like maybe a year ago, you could actually buy a grocery bag full of food. Not today and it's getting worse, not better.

Interestingly, my wife has started baking her own bread from pre packaged mixes. It's actually less expensive to do that versus buying a loaf of sponge bread at the grocery store. Average loaf of sponge bread is over 4 bucks presently and I do like 'craft' bread much better anyway.
 
/ Will UAW Strike? #648  
Lot of posters on here that need to start wearing boxer shorts instead of briefs. Briefs tend to get wadded up more often....lol Lot of posters on here do get butt hurt quite easily from what I observe.

Interestingly as well, my hunting buddy in Indiana (who is the plant manager of a steel concern there has always been an American truck buyer (RAM) and he told me, he's bought the last domestic truck he will purchase (he buys a new pickup truck every couple years), he told me his next truck will be a Toyota. He's pretty teed off with the UAW and the UAW strike is impacting his company's business negatively as well as his paycheck, I presume.

One of my rental tenants just got laid off from her job at a 3rd tier supplier as well so now she gets to collect unemployment and gets to pay the full tilt on her healthcare as well. Least her old man is working but for how long is a crapshoot. Gonna be a hard way to go for them I suspect. I'll probably have to defer their rent payments, which I will. I am a somewhat compassionate person despite what I allude to on here...

From what I've been hearing around town and elsewhere, there a lot of people who are consumers and not affiliated with the UAW or automotive ( In reality, unionized autoworkers are a very distinct minority in the grand scheme of things), that aren't very happy about what the UAW and Fain is doing and the end result if the end result causes nothing but price increases on goods and food they buy. Real inflation and what the government talking heads state are 2 different things entirely.

My personal observations at the grocery store and other outlets is the real inflation rate is more like 12-15%. Like the motor oil I bought for the tractors went up through the roof as well as food stuffs. You do have to eat, last time I checked. Today, 100 bucks gets you almost nothing at the grocery store when in the past, like maybe a year ago, you could actually buy a grocery bag full of food. Not today and it's getting worse, not better.

Interestingly, my wife has started baking her own bread from pre packaged mixes. It's actually less expensive to do that versus buying a loaf of sponge bread at the grocery store. Average loaf of sponge bread is over 4 bucks presently and I do like 'craft' bread much better anyway.
Dang 5030, you are an expert on everything from steel to undies!
 
/ Will UAW Strike? #649  
IMPO, it's messed up when the union strikes for higher wages because inflation has eaten up their purchasing power, and then B, whose overspending had much to do with causing the inflation, is welcomed when he comes to show his support?
 
/ Will UAW Strike? #650  
Dang 5030, you are an expert on everything from steel to undies!
When I was much younger, I never wore undies. Now I do because at my age, accidents do happen....lol

You have been here long enough to know some folks on this site are extremely sensitive when it comes to views they don't entirely agree with and usually what happens is, they snitch on the post to a moderator and then the post gets deleted. I can honestly say I've never done that in all the decades I've been a member here. I just ignore the post or in rare instance's put the poster on ignore.

At 73, I'd say I have a lot of experience in many things and some are not all that good experiences either, but I do learn from all of them and act accordingly.

Gotta keep the 'natives' all happy right?
 
/ Will UAW Strike? #651  
Pick your fighters carefully...

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/ Will UAW Strike? #652  
I dont know if I posted this here or not: but apparently the monthly Payment on a New F-150 now is an average of $973. That's not unique to Ford, or F-150s. I really don't know how that can be the average. I couldn't afford it. I am making uncomfortable payments on a 2019 Ram 1500 Classic 4x4 Bighorn, at $515/month for like 66 months. That's uncomfortable, but how could a 'normal' family be paying $1200-1800/month in Just car payments, not counting insurance, gas, Plus food (our houses single biggest expense), rent/mortage, and everything else. If that's going to be the cost for a new 1/2 ton pickup, I would buy a 5 year old truck with 100,000 miles, and pay 1/2 the $$$, and still have plenty of life left in it.

Without going down the 'signs we aren't going to make it' track; buying a new car/truck every 5 years is stupid (unless you have a business reason to do it).

Also, who the Heck is buying these teenagers new trucks? My son is 17, going on 18 in about 5 months, and we gave him a 2012 duragno that had a sale value of around $4k (trade in offered has $2.5k), which he traded for a 2003 Chevy 1500HD. Asked the bank about getting Him a loan (I would co-sign) to replace or repair that Chevy. Nope, under 18 Cannot have a loan, has to be 100% parents name. So these new vehicles at a HS are all 100% parent signed loans...
 
/ Will UAW Strike? #653  
Pick your fighters carefully...

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If you think about it, even the lower end of UAW workers are probably in the upper 20% of pay for hourly workers in the US. So, Eat the Rich, they mean themselves. Their upper end union guys are probably in the upper 5-10% of hourly pay.
 
/ Will UAW Strike? #654  
Interestingly as well, my hunting buddy in Indiana (who is the plant manager of a steel concern there has always been an American truck buyer (RAM) and he told me, he's bought the last domestic truck he will purchase (he buys a new pickup truck every couple years), he told me his next truck will be a Toyota. He's pretty teed off with the UAW
Not sure I follow the logic here. I don't see how buying a second rate Japanese truck is going to hurt anyone but himself.
 
/ Will UAW Strike? #655  
Not sure I follow the logic here. I don't see how buying a second rate Japanese truck is going to hurt anyone but himself.
I suspect his wallet will be heavier. I didn't ask for details, just what he told me. I have to ask about your reasoning that a Japanese but built in the United States with American employees is a second rate truck.

If you apply that twisted logic to tractors, I guess no one should be buying anything in the way of tractors because 99% of them are made offshore. India, China, Japan and Korea... Even CNH and Deere are made with offshore sourced parts and often times complete units.
 
/ Will UAW Strike? #656  
Even 35 is too much IMO. A new F150 Lightening is pushing 100 grand. Not for me, ever.
My truck has been paid for since 1996.
In 1996 I bought a used 1991 Ford F-250 for $4,000
I'm still driving that truck
 
/ Will UAW Strike? #657  
I’m officially priced out of the market on anything new, except maybe a trailer or a smaller tractor attachment.

There is no way in hell I could buy a new truck, farm tractor, or baler Anymore. From here on out, everything will be used.
New trucks are pretty much status symbols for the remaining wealthy suburbanites And large companies.
 
/ Will UAW Strike? #658  
Vince... Problem is, nothing lasts forever and at some point you will have to buy another one. I'm like you with my 97 F350, but then it's garaged all winter and comes out only when it's nice out anyway. Don't believe I've even washed it in a year or so. No need to. Stays clean all the time...lol
 
/ Will UAW Strike? #659  
I’m officially priced out of the market on anything new, except maybe a trailer or a smaller tractor attachment.

There is no way in hell I could buy a new truck, farm tractor, or baler Anymore. From here on out, everything will be used.
New trucks are pretty much status symbols for the remaining wealthy suburbanites And large companies.
You are not joking on status symbol. We get looked down or that kind of look alot because of our 2008 f350 by owners of new SD or HD owners.

I just laugh cuz ours is paid for
 
/ Will UAW Strike? #660  
Vince... Problem is, nothing lasts forever and at some point you will have to buy another one. I'm like you with my 97 F350, but then it's garaged all winter and comes out only when it's nice out anyway. Don't believe I've even washed it in a year or so. No need to. Stays clean all the time...lol
With rust not a factor I may just keep the 1930 Ford pickup in service...

Been to Home Depot many times when I needed half dozen sacks of ready mix concrete and similar...

Just returned from Washington where apparently 25 years and older vehicles get a pass so in reality they can go in forever.

In my part of California 1976 and newer requires emissions compliance... restricting options.

The move across the board to ICE elimination continues with local jurisdictions often being stricter than State..

Never like the concept of rebooting but vehicles are truly computers on wheels.
 

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