Who doesn't despise trolls?

[ljjhouser]

I make typos or sometimes leave words out. I like it the way it ils

 

[beowulf]

When I have edited, I think I have limited it to typos, misspellings and such. I suggest that if a poster wants to make a substantive change after there have been responses, that instead of changing then content of the original post, to simply add "UPDATE" below the post and add the content there with an explanation if needed, e.g., "I said that I did X to solve my issue, but actually I did Y", or, "I forgot to mention that......". or whatever.

 

[Xfaxman]

The question is if the majority is in favor of asking Muhammad to take measures that limit time allowed to delete or edit.

My answer is leave it unlimited.

We figured just giving unlimited edit permissions would solve that, and it has. If there's a greater downside, we can think about changing it back.

Please don't even think about changing it back.

I have made corrections to many old posts since the new version came out.

 

[Snobdds]

Examples?

If a post has been replied to with a quote, the original content will be there. If there's ever a dispute over facts, we do have a post history that we can dig through to find the truth. This is incredibly rare though.

We used to have a 60 minute time limit on editing posts and it was common that users wanted to edit content (maybe remove a phone number or change some content based on it mentioning another party) and then needed a moderator to do it. We figured just giving unlimited edit permissions would solve that, and it has. If there's a greater downside, we can think about changing it back.

i don't think you need to change a thing.

 

[sea2summit]

Don’t change back.

 

[Jstpssng]

It's funny what bugs some people. This should be in the OCD thread.

I find none of your complainants actual forms of trolling...

I was thinking the same thing. "Troll" is why I no longer read the "Electric cars III", because I fell into that category.

 

[JasperFrank]

Sometimes just after hitting the post button, on re-read, my own words come back to me as sounding harsh and full of ridicule, which wasn't what I was attempting to convey. If I can't figure out a re-write, to get rid of this overall incorrect tone, I'll just delete the post.
I was a bit horrified after starting the Tool **** Friday thread, with how the advertising algorithm handled it. Hint... don't use any suggestive words in a new thread title.

 

[jaxs]

Clearly few if any notice that people sometimes edit posts in a fashion that renders replies already posted nonsensical. Although I said deleting can be even worse than editing it is interesting that no one addressed op deleting their original post and wiping out all those that followed it.
Per Muhammad's request for example; a common case is someone lashing out at another then when "another" responds (confirming another read the insult) "lasher" deletes his post then walks away. Eventhough some don't think it fits under the title of troll,I believe it does,certainly falls under some other headings but imo troll is one of them. Call it what you will,it is bad behavior and spreads discontent non the less. Another event is someone asks for help then after two days and receiving one or more lengthy replies,deletes their original post. Coupled with the fact it's the poster's first and last post or poster has been a member for two years and has only 2 or three posts,it seems nefarious. Below is one from today. This is copy/paste from email notification.
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Jstpssng replied to a thread you are watching at TractorByNet - Tractor Forum.
He's gotten several answers in the twin thread he posted this AM.

https://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/threads/1975-ford-2000-or-1950-8n.455503/#post-6338436

1975 Ford 2000 or 1950 8N​

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None of this is a hanging offense but with some other forums it grew legs and became a contentious issue that eventually lead to limiting time allowed.
TBN isn't there so we are good.
Thanks to all of your participation.

 

[Jstpssng]

^^^^

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Jstpssng replied to a thread you are watching at TractorByNet - Tractor Forum.
He's gotten several answers in the twin thread he posted this AM.

https://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/threads/1975-ford-2000-or-1950-8n.455503/#post-6338436

1975 Ford 2000 or 1950 8N​

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I didn't even notice that the thread was gone until you posted this.
I don't completely agree with your message but understand your point. It's somewhat common for somebody to bring a zombie thread up. After people start replying to it again they will delete the post which "bumped" it... leaving the next poster in line looking like they really were responding to some supernatural being.

 

[Yander]

I wish life had an unlimited edit option, I have some comments I'd take back.

 

[newbury]

I didn't even notice that the thread was gone until you posted this.
I don't completely agree with your message but understand your point. It's somewhat common for somebody to bring a zombie thread up. After people start replying to it again they will delete the post which "bumped" it... leaving the next poster in line looking like they really were responding to some supernatural being.

We've discussed zombie threads before, one just has to notice when the thread was started.
It may also be helpful to point out to newbies that the thread is xx years old and the OP hasn't been seen since XXXX.

In Internet slang, a troll is a person who posts inflammatory, insincere, digressive, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community

What you are discussing is minor.
If you've read any of my writings you've probably seen my
/edit
style.
This is a discussion that makes me miss Emily Postnews.

 

[Yander]

We've discussed zombie threads before, one just has to notice when the thread was started.
It may also be helpful to point out to newbies that the thread is xx years old and the OP hasn't been seen since XXXX.

What you are discussing is minor.
If you've read any of my writings you've probably seen my
/edit
style.
This is a discussion that makes me miss Emily Postnews.

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Q: What about other important questions? How should I know when to post?

A: Always post them. It would be a big waste of your time to find a
knowledgeable user in one of the groups and ask through private mail if
the topic has already come up. Much easier to bother thousands of people
with the same question.

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Q: What is the measure of a worthwhile group?

A: Why, it's Volume, Volume, Volume. Any group that has lots of noise in
it must be good. Remember, the higher the volume of material in a group,
the higher percentage of useful, factual and insightful articles you
will find. In fact, if a group can't demonstrate a high enough volume,
it should be deleted from the net.

 

[yooperterry]

still lmao ! When I first saw your thread heading I thought this was going to be about those that live south of the big bridge in Michigan's LP .

Yep that's a troll! Yoopers don't like trolls!

 

[jaxs]

I wish life had an unlimited edit option, I have some comments I'd take back.

Don't we all? It has been said that the world would be better if people were born with the same amount of wisdom as they die with. Making heart felt apologies can be difficult but fortunately the necessity for making them gets farther apart every time we have to make one. Why? Because we learn to "proof read" in our head before opening our head.

 

[tradosaurus]

Amongst the worst of trolls are those who post then edit after responses have been posted and even worse are OPs that delete their original post and wipe out entire thread along with all replies. How long do you feel is reasonable for editing a post before it can't be edited? Same question for time allowed to delete a post? One always has the option of posting an explanation in the event they poorly word a post. The question is if the majority is in favor of asking Muhammad to take measures that limit time allowed to delete or edit.

Why is this an issue?
I've been on countless forums over the last 20 years and never once have I ever thought of this being a problem.

 

[dstig1]

I've edited for grammar or factual errors. I see nothing wrong with that. Many grammar errors because of "auto spell". All my zerks become zeros.

Now that sounds like a country song!

 

[JasperFrank]

I'm not saying this is trolling. But many posts just don't give enough info for anyone to figure out. I tend not to respond to these, immediately, as the OP will then add info later that counter acts any sort of help, one may offer on the limited information given in the first post. And makes your early reply a waste of time in an earnest attempt to help the OP. Some will even comeback and say your advice was idiotic as will posters that follow after the crucial bit of information was then revealed.
For instance, OP says they need direction/advice on something, but the description of the circumstances are vague and no pics to help out. Pics really are worth a thousand words. This is a community help forum. Its up to the OP to give ALL information they can. A post that starts with I don't know about some thing, some thing, and its not working in something, or something sort of way, with no pic and no references to even the equipment or the environment it is used in, is a waste of time to respond to.

 

[bcp]

My tractor won't start.
HELP!
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What kind of tractor? How does it not start?
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Red. and that's what I'm asking for help about.
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...etc...




Bruce

 

[jaxs]

I'm not saying this is trolling. But many posts just don't give enough info for anyone to figure out. I tend not to respond to these, immediately, as the OP will then add info later that counter acts any sort of help, one may offer on the limited information given in the first post. And makes your early reply a waste of time in an earnest attempt to help the OP. Some will even comeback and say your advice was idiotic as will posters that follow after the crucial bit of information was then revealed.
For instance, OP says they need direction/advice on something, but the description of the circumstances are vague and no pics to help out. Pics really are worth a thousand words. This is a community help forum. Its up to the OP to give ALL information they can. A post that starts with I don't know about some thing, some thing, and its not working in something, or something sort of way, with no pic and no references to even the equipment or the environment it is used in, is a waste of time to respond to.

I liken it to kid with a football but no one to play with. He spots a room full of monkeys and tosses the ball in through the open window. To his delight every monkey in the room wants the ball and their antics are beyond entertaining.

 

[Jchonline]

I have an anti-trolling software on my computer. It basically prevents me from searching for anything on the internet, reading any posts, or interacting with social media in any way.