What was Kubota thinking?
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RobertN
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IMHO, it is a different tractor. Old tractors had manual steering, 2wd. If you have an implement on, they were light in the front. It was very handy, almost necessary, to have steering brakes to make a turn under load.
Newer tractors, especially CUTS, tend to be better balanced, have 4wd available, most have power steering.
I have tried the steering brakes on my Farmall-A. It will turn on a dime when you turn the steering wheel and stab a brake. It is a totally different tractor than my Kubota though; my B8200 easily out-manuevers my Farmall, without using the brakes for steering. And, most times, I would tear something, like the lawn, up if I used the brakes for steering assistance.
Newer tractors, especially CUTS, tend to be better balanced, have 4wd available, most have power steering.
I have tried the steering brakes on my Farmall-A. It will turn on a dime when you turn the steering wheel and stab a brake. It is a totally different tractor than my Kubota though; my B8200 easily out-manuevers my Farmall, without using the brakes for steering. And, most times, I would tear something, like the lawn, up if I used the brakes for steering assistance.
gbick
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Gimme a break! I don't post often because I'm a one finger typer and have occasionally lost my replies into cyber space and had to type them again. It is much more enjoyable to just read the wealth of intertainment and advice on this site. But when this topic resurfaces, you force me to go through the drudgery of responding. And I have replied to this topic before, So I will not go again into why I consider steering brakes manditory-yes, even on a 4wd cut. I went to the Kubota dealer fully expecting to come home with a 30ish hp hydrostatic loader tractor because I know they make a fine product. WHAT??? Hydro and brakes on the same side!! I DON'T HAVE 2 RIGHT FEET!! On to the JD dealer. THE FIRST thing to see is the pedal setup. YES, they are configured sanely! I am now the proud owner of a JD 4310. As an extra bonus, I much prefer the seperate forward and reverse pedals. As long as orange blinded owners defend this obvious design flaw, Kubota will continue to produce a good tractor that could be great. I may not respond to casual replies because I have an hour invested in this post already and I have school homework due tomorrow.(Longhand on lined paper) Hopefully this will post and not dissappear. If it does, this nugget of opinion will be lost forever. Greg.
Volfandt
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Forced to respond, orange blinded, design flaw, hummmm, I guess we should feel honored to have your forced opinion in this humble thread, too bad it makes no valid points, other than my guess is to tell us how happy you are with your choice of tractor ....
MOPAULY
Gold Member
gbick said:
um.....what?
gbick
Silver Member
OK, ******, the the homework will have to wait for a while longer because I checked back before logging off. Your responce is more than casual. Had I bought a Kubota, I would have loved it. I had a Pinto and loved it. I love my 1990 no options Nissan truck. My 2003 Chev Cavalier is great. My project 1946 Chev 2 ton truck and my 1968 Oldsmobile 98 are my passions. All of these have design flaws, but are out of production.
gbick
Silver Member
C'mon, don't we want to improve the breed?
MOPAULY
Gold Member
um....what?....again?
The cracking floor pan is a design flaw. Not having steering brakes because you want them is not.
The cracking floor pan is a design flaw. Not having steering brakes because you want them is not.
gbick
Silver Member
It is ok to admit that there features on your tractor of choise that you would like to change. I'll start. I wish I didn't have to hold the fuel can over the hood while leaning on a greasy loader.
Volfandt
Veteran Member
The Kubota design has been around for ummmm, well as long as your project and it's still in production. Not to mention that it produces/sells more CUTs than any other tractor manufacturer, including your choice.
I already posted my opinion on the position of the brakes and you've failed to counter those points, you've only opined your percieved and incorrect guess on what color I and others see all things as well as incorrectly pointing out that the most popular CUT models made have a design flaw ....
gbick
Silver Member
UMMMMMMMMM I'm guessing you like orange.
art
Super Member
Let's see, market say's that there are more tractors built with Kubota system then any other. Who's right? I know that if mind you if, it was advisable to use brake steer on a four wheel drive and good for the front end I would think it might be considered. On many four wheel drive farm tractors there are no steering brakes. You might think it a would be a safety issue if a company that continually designs machines unique to all others like it in the market. Like a hand clutch! There is not one machine built that is right for everyone.
MOPAULY
Gold Member
gbick said:
I don't have to do that on my Kubota.
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gbick said:
If you need and rely on steering brakes, the Kubota hydrostatic is not for you. Repeat, NOT for YOU. If you buy it despite this warning, to bad. Next post....
gbick
Silver Member
I have only stated what I know as fact based on my experience. I will not attempt to reason with blind infatuation.SP? Now go cuddle up with your Kubota. Goodnight. Greg
Fjord
Silver Member
I agree. I find it a little puzzling that the left and right brakes can be separated when there isn't a practical method of using them that way, but from my perspective the question is purely academic because I don't really have any practical need to use them that way. If it ever became an issue I'd probably try to rig up some method of operating the hydro by hand like my lawnmower, but for now that would be an unnecessary project._RaT_ said:
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