What fuel(s) are people using?

[cuemark8]

All the EPA regulations brought big changes to the industry of engine makers and fuel refineries. So what are people running in their tractors?
I have the JD 3520. Bought new in 2009. According to manual. Low sulfur diesel or untra low sulfur diesel fuel acceptable. Fine print to keep EPA happy, ultra low sulfur recommended. So since new I have run nothing but #1 ULSD on-highway fuel. No #2 died fuel!
One reason is just convience where I by it. The closest two local gas stations do not sell off-road diesel fuel. I know heating oil and #2 diesel fuel is the same stuff. See it all the at work with heavy equipment. I don't use heating oil for the house, so I don't by it. I just fill up fuel cans at the local gas station. I don't go out of my way for diesel fuel.

So, Pro's Con's of #1 vs. #2 fuel and LSD vs. ULSD?

I here many people complaining the new ULSD doesn't lubricate the injectors ow fuel pump well. It's hard on them.
One plus I can notice the exhaust from my tractor seems alot cleaner. No black soot. But I have nothing to really compare it to except other tractors of different models.
One reason I do like and don't mind paying the taxes on highway fuel is better fuel quality. Regardless of brand, just like gasoline, highway diesel fuel does have detergents and cleanings agents in it and in winter it has anti-jelling agents added to it. using #1 should make cold weather starting of a diesel easier. These highway truckers, seldom have starting troubles or fuel lines jelling anymore, unless it's absolutely brutal cold like -20 F or more. #2 diesel fuel lacks those additives.

I use only #1 ULSD maybe I'm wasting my money ?!

 

[RoyJackson]

I use the standard diesel at the local pump. I add Power Service to it for the added lubrication lost when the sulfur is reduced.

 

[DK35vince]

I've never run anything but dyed off road/home heating diesel. Its 40+ cents a gallon cheaper than on road fuel with no down side that I can see.

 

[techwrtr2]

Same here. Winter time, I'll put some additive into it, but I don't bother during the summer.

 

[Little Red Tractor]

I too buy from the pump at a local station out of convenience. When I had a Bolens 154 diesel, I found that using a conditioner seemed to help the starting--especially in colder weather. My Cub Cadet hasn't seen a winter with me yet, but I run conditioner anyway.
If I had a convenient source for #2 fuel I would probably use it, cut it with kerosene in the winter and use conditioner.

 

[megaboz]

I use whatever fuel is convenient, but I always use Schaeffer's SoyShield as an additive. Does an awesome job for my tractor and truck. But I always buy from places that have high turnover on their product. If the stalls are nasty, so isn't their fuel most likely.

 

[AKfish]

I've never run anything but dyed off road/home heating diesel. Its 40+ cents a gallon cheaper than on road fuel with no down side that I can see.

Same here... Add Power Service - year around. It's nearly a $1.00 a gallon less - delivered - than the pump price up here!

Been doing it for nearly 10 years now. Use it in my 2002 7.3l Ford and my 2003 DuraMax, too. No injector problems or pump issues, either.

AKfish

 

[sunnyside360]

I've used off road diesel fuel with Power Service additive in all my equipment for over 40 years and haven't had any issues. My 93 year old neighbor who had a large construction business all his life says he used the same stuff. He currently has an underground tank (1000 gallons ?) which feeds both his home heating system and pump for fueling diesel equipment.

 

[LBrown59]

***All the EPA regulations brought big changes to the industry of engine makers and fuel refineries.
1*So what are people running in their tractors?
I have the JD 3520. Bought new in 2009. According to manual.
2* Low sulfur diesel or untra low sulfur diesel fuel acceptable.
6* Fine print to keep EPA happy, ultra low sulfur recommended.
7*So since new I have run nothing but #1 ULSD on-highway fuel. No #2 died fuel!
8* The closest two local gas stations do not sell off-road diesel fuel.
9*I know heating oil and #2 diesel fuel is the same stuff. See it all the at work with heavy equipment.
10*I don't use heating oil for the house, so I don't by it.
11*So, Pro's Con's of #1 vs. #2 fuel and LSD vs. ULSD?
12*I hear many people complaining the new ULSD doesn't lubricate the injectors or fuel pump well.
13*One plus I can notice the exhaust from my tractor seems a lot cleaner. No black soot.
14*One reason I do like and don't mind paying the taxes on highway fuel is better fuel quality.
Regardless of brand, just like gasoline,
15*highway diesel fuel does have detergents and cleanings agents in it and in winter it has anti-jelling agents added to it.
16*using #1 should make cold weather starting of a diesel easier. These highway truckers, seldom have starting troubles or fuel lines jelling anymore, unless it's absolutely brutal cold like -20 F or more.
17* #2 diesel fuel lacks those additives.
18*I use only #1 ULSD maybe I'm wasting my money ?!

***True the changes were completed by 2010 therefore
nearly all your comments above apply to that period not todays market.

I've never run anything but dyed off road/home heating diesel. Its
19*40+ cents a gallon cheaper than on road fuel
20*with no down side that I can see.

19*-20* How would not paying the tax on the same ULSD create a down side?

 

[rsewill]

The ULSD has lubricant added. Maybe not so with your fuel oil.

 

[megaboz]

***True the changes were completed by 2010 therefore
nearly all your comments above apply to that period not todays market.

19*-20* How would not paying the tax on the same ULSD create a down side?

Why pay road tax if not on the road?

 

[LBrown59]

Why pay road tax if not on the road?

Sometimes your are forced to such as when there's no untaxed available .

The ULSD has lubricant added. Maybe not so with your fuel oil.

There is no ULSD and Fuel Oil.
That's all in the past.
Now all we have is ULSD which is the same everywhere no mattet what it may be called.

 

[JimP]

In CT home heating oil is generally high sulfur. ULS home heating oil/off road diesel is available by special order. According to the CT DEP, home heating oil in CT will go low sulfur when the other New England states adopt low sulfur heating oil.

 

[megaboz]

The original poster is asking about pros and cons. Those really depend n if the injectors can hands the low sulphur or ultra low as it calls for. I wouldn't run low sulphur as I wouldn't trust that the injectors could handle it. Run the ultra low and a good fuel additive, safest bet.

 

[BOC]

In Indiana road fuel (Ultra Low Sufur) and farm fuel (what was Low Sulfur) has all become one in the same (Ultra Low Sulfur). The only difference is the purple dye in the farm fuel because this fuel we do not pay taxes on. You mean to tell me this is not the same all over the country??? I thought by now, 2012, all diesel fuel is Ultra Low Sulfur per government regulations. My brand new 2012 CUT tractor says to use either Low Sulfur or Ultra Low Sulfur. I was under the assumption either would work and that the injectors could handle either???

 

[creekbend]

I get my diesel at the same place where I fill up my truck. I usually fill two 5 gallon cans at a time. The tank on my Kunota l4400 holds 11.3 gallons. I also use Power Service which I buy at TSC.

 

[Edward. S]

I use Red Diesel, I called them and asked what type of diesel they used, They said what ever Esso gives them, ULSD/LSD I heard they put 5% of BioDiesel in the LSD mixture. I pay about $1.10/Litre delivered and taxed a tiny bit. White Diesel over here is around $1.45/Litre. Its more than 87 Octane :confused2:. If you guys are complaining about gas prices, Don't. Think about my prices and smile, :laughing: I run Red/OffRoad diesel on all my diesel vehicles, Tractors/Trucks. I never gotten pulled over for a tank check.

 

[rsewill]

I run Red/OffRoad diesel on all my diesel vehicles, Tractors/Trucks. I never gotten pulled over for a tank check.

I've driven by fuel tax spot checks in my Class 8. They wave me through, never checking me. They're waiting for someone like you.

 

[jgayman]

I get my diesel at the same place where I fill up my truck. I usually fill two 5 gallon cans at a time. The tank on my Kunota l4400 holds 11.3 gallons. I also use Power Service which I buy at TSC.

When you say you are using Power Service, which specific Power Service product are you using?

I see Diesel Kleen + Cetane Boost, Diesel Fuel Supplement + Cetane Boose and Diesel 9-1-1.

 

[creekbend]

When you say you are using Power Service, which specific Power Service product are you using?

I see Diesel Kleen + Cetane Boost, Diesel Fuel Supplement + Cetane Boose and Diesel 9-1-1.

I use Power Service Agri Power + Cetane boost with Slick diesel lubricant. When I bought my tractor, I asked the mechanic at my dealership and he recommended this. He told me about TSC. My mechanic told me that any Power Service additive with Slick diesel lubricant would work.