Using a generator to power welder.

[BufordBoone]

I have a small generator (Honda EU 2000i). It says output is 120V 13.3A

I have a couple of welders that will work on 120V. One is stick and one is multi process (Lincoln 210 MP).

Is it likely that either of these will run off my generator. I suspect not but thought it best to ask.

I need to repair my gate and there is no power at the location. Closest power is approx 1 mile away.

Thanks, in advance.

 

[Sawyer Rob]

It would have to be a pretty wimpy welder to run off a Honda 2000...

SR

 

[radios1]

don't bother, rent something that will do the job properly!. a welder/generator or an oxy/acetylene welder..

 

[PineBrookFarm]

Any 110 volt welder I've ever seen needs every bit of 20amps with a short heavy power cord.

 

[BufordBoone]

I'll call the welder that built and installed the gate. Just was curious if I had the tools to handle it. Now I know that I don't.

Thanks.

 

[BukitCase]

Not mentioned, but can your gate hinges be removed and the whole gate moved to the welder (instead of vice-versa)? (Mountain to muhammed, IOW) ...Steve

 

[dragoneggs]

Yeah, they will run at low setting but I think you're going to struggle with a decent weld unless your material thicknesses are pretty thin.

 

[BufordBoone]

Not mentioned, but can your gate hinges be removed and the whole gate moved to the welder (instead of vice-versa)? (Mountain to muhammed, IOW) ...Steve

The part that needs repair is connected to the post that is cemented in the ground. A guy cut my lock last December. I want to fix it up so that a bolt cutter can't get to the locks. My short-term fix was connecting a cable (bulldog) clamp on the lock shackle in such a way that a bolt cutter can't get to the shackle. I should have checked the build when it was installed. My fault for not doing so.

The Burglar got three cans of gas, 1/2 a pole saw and my undivided attention. I had him identified within 5 days. Sheriff picked him up and, when presented with the video, he had no choice but to confess.

My greatest hope is that word gets out that there are "cameras everywhere".

Still need to fix the gate, though.

Thanks to all for the info.

 

[RNeumann]

Your welder will run off the Honda but not at max amps. If you can get say 120 amps out of the 210mp at 120v on a 20a circuit you will only get about 75% of that or 90 amps. Obviously much higher and you will trip the breaker on the Honda. Take the Honda out of “Eco Mode” and play with it. If it was me I’d stick to some skinny 6011 and stick weld. I didn’t read anything beyond your gate so I’m hoping it’s just some simple welds.....

 

[dragoneggs]

It sure pisses me off when I hear of thiefs work. Glad to hear you persevered and 'got' him. Good luck on the repair.

 

[BukitCase]

You've probably already thought of this, but any chance you know anybody with that same Honda genny (and a parallel kit) - that'd give you TWICE as much 120 volt power, might get your job done even tho it wouldn't let you run either welder on 240... Steve

 

[BufordBoone]

You've probably already thought of this, but any chance you know anybody with that same Honda genny (and a parallel kit) - that'd give you TWICE as much 120 volt power, might get your job done even tho it wouldn't let you run either welder on 240... Steve

Good idea, Steve. I'll look around.

Thanks.

 

[yomax4]

Got oxy-fuel torch? Get a stick of Nickel Silver (NiAg) brazing rod and torch it up. Very tough and hard to cut. Fixes cast material and many other things too.

 

[TnAndy]

Call local rentall place and see what a day rental on something like a Miller Bobcat or Lincoln gas driven welder runs. I just looked at our local one, and it's $40 for a day, has 50' of lead with it.

 

[zzvyb6]

A Honda EU3000IS will run the Lincoln at 40% Duty on 120Vin (1900 Watts). The EU2000IS is quite a bit shy.

My EU6500IS runs my Miller 211 fine. I ALWAYS use the full throttle setting for these tasks instead of the On-Demand feature.

If there is a farmer nearby, they might have a tractor powered PTO generator that will do the job without puffing.

 

[Big Barn]

Call local rentall place and see what a day rental on something like a Miller Bobcat or Lincoln gas driven welder runs. I just looked at our local one, and it's $40 for a day, has 50' of lead with it.

For $40 a day I would go this route. In my area you’d be lucky if you can get someone to even show up for less than $200.

Keep an eye out for a portable welder if you anticipate future jobs. I found this little Briggs and Stratton powered DC welder for $50cdn with 50 feet of leads.

 

[Jchonline]

It will run but at a lower temp. That means a weaker weld. Get a bigger generator or call the welder.

 

[BufordBoone]

Just saw an ad for a Sportsman 4,000/3,500 generator for $279. Looks like that means 4,000 surge and 3,500 constant watts.

Am I correct in believing this generator should power my Lincoln 210 MP on 120?

The specs on the Lincoln page say Input power: 115/230/1/60

Thanks for all the recommendations.

BTW, my "quick fix" for countering bolt cutters has been to install bulldog (cable) clamps on the lock shackle and grind the nuts so that a wrench won't turn them. The clamp is too large for the bolt cutter jaws.

I understand the 115/230 part is for volts. Anybody know what the other numbers are?

 

[Sawyer Rob]

1= single phase and the 60 = cycles.

I don't think that gen set is big enough to do a good job running a welder...

SR

 

[Fallon]

Inverter machines are reasonably sensitive to power quality. Most generators, especially cheap ones, put out pretty dirty power. The combination of those 2 means a fried welder. Most manufacturers specify a generator capable of clean power output. I forget (probably varies too) the maximum total harmonic distortion & other metrics they use to define "clean".

Old transformer machines dont care, but good luck on moving them in a portable manner. Much less needing a lot more generator due to the efficiency.