UFO's... What do you think?

[PapaPerk]

It did convince Callahan- the FAA division chief. The pilot Terauchi an ex fighter pilot had over 10,000 hours of flight experience seems credible also his account was backed up by the co-pilot and flight engineer. PapaPerk if you found the JAL 1628 interesting I think you would enjoy this- Black Box UFO Secrets - Top Documentary Films It contains many recordings released through the freedom of information act and also contains much of the JAL 1628 communications.

I just finished watching the documentary! Excellent show! This is the very thing I'm talking about. Also interesting is the encounters astronauts have had. Really makes you wonder what people are seeing. Pilots are very reputable and they must be seeing something!

 

[/pine]

No it's not, many at NASA couldn't even get cleared to see military stuff. If NASA has it military did it ten years before. HS

I guess that explains the seal team that jumped down on the moon first to make sure Armstrong was not harassed...? LoL...

FYI...NASA started off in the military...

C'mon...get real...it's has nothing to do with security clearances...it's the same contractor personnel (hardware/software)...If it's a person's job is to monitor a satellite's status...there is no need to know what that satellite is doing application wise...The Air Force has always had the last word on anything being launched off the planet by the gov. in any capacity...

IMO..."NASA" is no different than any (other than being unarmed) branch of the armed forces...sure they put on a public persona for the masses but C'mon...I don't think that every graduate from the Air Force academy reaches the same clearance level as the range officer on any NASA launch...

Trying to divide NASA and the Pentagon is like trying to divide the USACE from bad ideas...!

 

[RoyJackson]

How far is the closest star? | The Sun's Nearest Neighbor

The nearest star, part of a three star system, is 4.37 light-years away, not millions. But, I grant that with our current technology it makes no difference in our ability to reach that star.

Actually, we have the technology...but not the will to spend the billions (trillions?) it would cost for a 100 year journey...less, if it was unmanned. I doubt there would be too many volunteers to leave their lives behind them and return in 100 years to what might be a totally unrecognizable future.

There is a theory for a warp type drive... We don't have the technology, but in a hundred years...who knows.
Alcubierre drive - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[/pine]

Actually, we have the technology...but not the will to spend the billions (trillions?) it would cost for a 100 year journey...less, if it was unmanned. I doubt there would be too many volunteers to leave their lives behind them and return in 100 years to what might be a totally unrecognizable future.

There is a theory for a warp type drive... We don't have the technology, but in a hundred years...who knows.
Alcubierre drive - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

one word: "wormholes"

trying to apply (long distance space travel) technology currently available...IMO is like the Amish pulling machinery with horses...

Mastering the the fabric of space/time is the ticket...

Not sure where I read this (will look for a link)....but there are more stars...that are closer to us, that we can't see (because they are too dim) than stars we can see...!!!

 

[MossRoad]

I guess that explains the seal team that jumped down on the moon first to make sure Armstrong was not harassed...? LoL...

FYI...NASA started off in the military...

C'mon...get real...it's has nothing to do with security clearances...it's the same contractor personnel (hardware/software)...If it's a person's job is to monitor a satellite's status...there is no need to know what that satellite is doing application wise...The Air Force has always had the last word on anything being launched off the planet by the gov. in any capacity...

IMO..."NASA" is no different than any (other than being unarmed) branch of the armed forces...sure they put on a public persona for the masses but C'mon...I don't think that every graduate from the Air Force academy reaches the same clearance level as the range officer on any NASA launch...

Trying to divide NASA and the Pentagon is like trying to divide the USACE from bad ideas...!

I'm glad I wasn't consuming a beverage when I read that first sentence!!! :thumbsup:

 

[dave1949]

Actually, we have the technology...but not the will to spend the billions (trillions?) it would cost for a 100 year journey...less, if it was unmanned. I doubt there would be too many volunteers to leave their lives behind them and return in 100 years to what might be a totally unrecognizable future.

There is a theory for a warp type drive... We don't have the technology, but in a hundred years...who knows.
Alcubierre drive - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

It would be a tall order I think to do it with current technology.

The Voyager space probe travels at 0.00567% of the speed of light. (17 km/sec)

To reach a star 4.37 light years from earth in 50 years requires traveling at 8.74% of the speed of light, or 1,541.45 times faster than Voyager(s) which I think attained their speed by planetary gravity slingshot.

That would require some type of propulsion system. This is a round-up of some other propulsion ideas:
Gallery: Future in Space

I don't think NASA will have any trouble filling the seats for a one-way journey to Mars or anywhere else. Mars One Over 200,000 applied within a short time and supposedly 705 of those are initially viable candidates.

 

[2LaneCruzer]

Oh contraire. Evolution is far more difficult to support than Creation. Evolution depends upon the acceptance of "Everything from Nothing." There are more gaps in that ludicrous theory than an old picket fence.

Absolute proof is pretty hard to come by in either school of thought.

 

[sd455dan]

I just finished watching the documentary! Excellent show! This is the very thing I'm talking about. Also interesting is the encounters astronauts have had. Really makes you wonder what people are seeing. Pilots are very reputable and they must be seeing something!

Glad you liked it.
Listening to the actual voice recordings adds a dimension that just doesn't come across when reading the text.
I believe that there would be more reported events by pilots if it wasn't such a risk to their flight status and professional careers.

 

[PapaPerk]

Glad you liked it. Listening to the actual voice recordings adds a dimension that just doesn't come across when reading the text. I believe that there would be more reported events by pilots if it wasn't such a risk to their flight status and professional careers.

Yes absolutely. To hear them talk there is no doubt they see something. And the controllers fully believe them as well!

 

[troutsqueezer]

Brevity is the soul of wit.

 

[RoyJackson]

It would be a tall order I think to do it with current technology.

The Voyager space probe travels at 0.00567% of the speed of light. (17 km/sec)

To reach a star 4.37 light years from earth in 50 years requires traveling at 8.74% of the speed of light, or 1,541.45 times faster than Voyager(s) which I think attained their speed by planetary gravity slingshot.

That would require some type of propulsion system. This is a round-up of some other propulsion ideas:
Gallery: Future in Space

I don't think NASA will have any trouble filling the seats for a one-way journey to Mars or anywhere else. Mars One Over 200,000 applied within a short time and supposedly 705 of those are initially viable candidates.

As far as current technology, I was thinking of the Orion nuclear rocket conceived in the 1950's and 60's. It's doable...today...but only if mankind was willing to put the resources into it. We're not there yet...and there are a lot of technological issues to consider other then propulsion.
Here's a bit more: Project Orion (nuclear propulsion) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Since the topic is UFOs, there is no doubt in my mind life resides elsewhere and some of that life is more advanced then we on earth. Although my heart says yes, we have been visited; my head says "probably not".


Limitations in space travel that we understand (travel faster then the speed of light) may not be the limit Einstein theorized...not to a sufficiently advanced civilization.

 

[stuckmotor]

My ancestors settled here from the planet 1234 and we don't believe in all that space alien stuff. I guess, we could be wrong...

 

[jlgurr]

Indeed my friend. I sometimes wonder if Earth is actually the size of a grain of sand in the grand scheme of things.

Watch "How Great is Our God" by Louie Giglio. This will put our puny existence into perspective relative to the stars above.

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[Egon]

I'm positive that our solar system is contained in a small ornamental sphere and worn around a cat's neck.

 

[ovrszd]

Mastering the the fabric of space/time is the ticket...

Yep, that was my point earlier. When we can conquer time we'll have no use for this Planet. Except maybe to come back for the holidays, kinda like going to your childhood hometown.

 

[ovrszd]

But first of course, humanity would have to stop needing to spend huge amounts on war and war preparedness and direct that to something with lasting usefulness. Doing that requires re-framing our values as a species; we would have to transcend our basic natures.

But Dave, that can't happen. If the U.S. focused the monetary resources required to develop a successful way to escape Earth at the cost of our military budget we would not be the passengers. The passengers would be some thug nation that quietly stood back and waited for the completion date, then stomped out our existence, because we would have no defense system and took our seats.....

 

[jerrybob]

It would be a tall order I think to do it with current technology.

The Voyager space probe travels at 0.00567% of the speed of light. (17 km/sec)

To reach a star 4.37 light years from earth in 50 years requires traveling at 8.74% of the speed of light, or 1,541.45 times faster than Voyager(s) which I think attained their speed by planetary gravity slingshot.

That would require some type of propulsion system. This is a round-up of some other propulsion ideas:
Gallery: Future in Space

I don't think NASA will have any trouble filling the seats for a one-way journey to Mars or anywhere else. Mars One Over 200,000 applied within a short time and supposedly 705 of those are initially viable candidates.

I can think of several politicians I would like to send........hopefully.....they won't get the engines started on their return takeoff.