UFO's... What do you think?

[houstonscott]

In reality, America's space program (NASA) is really just an arm of the DOD...so it is easy to look at the Apollo program as a act of a cold war...it was an effort that had the backing of the populous... ...It's a shame that other than the Apollo space program...in my lifetime (other than the "miracle on ice") the only other happening that brought America together was the 911 attack... What America lacks most is leadership that is capable of bringing that same type of unification and patriotism...

No it's not, many at NASA couldn't even get cleared to see military stuff. If NASA has it military did it ten years before. HS

 

[PapaPerk]

It did convince Callahan- the FAA division chief. The pilot Terauchi an ex fighter pilot had over 10,000 hours of flight experience seems credible also his account was backed up by the co-pilot and flight engineer. PapaPerk if you found the JAL 1628 interesting I think you would enjoy this- Black Box UFO Secrets - Top Documentary Films It contains many recordings released through the freedom of information act and also contains much of the JAL 1628 communications.

I just finished watching the documentary! Excellent show! This is the very thing I'm talking about. Also interesting is the encounters astronauts have had. Really makes you wonder what people are seeing. Pilots are very reputable and they must be seeing something!

 

[/pine]

No it's not, many at NASA couldn't even get cleared to see military stuff. If NASA has it military did it ten years before. HS

I guess that explains the seal team that jumped down on the moon first to make sure Armstrong was not harassed...? LoL...

FYI...NASA started off in the military...

C'mon...get real...it's has nothing to do with security clearances...it's the same contractor personnel (hardware/software)...If it's a person's job is to monitor a satellite's status...there is no need to know what that satellite is doing application wise...The Air Force has always had the last word on anything being launched off the planet by the gov. in any capacity...

IMO..."NASA" is no different than any (other than being unarmed) branch of the armed forces...sure they put on a public persona for the masses but C'mon...I don't think that every graduate from the Air Force academy reaches the same clearance level as the range officer on any NASA launch...

Trying to divide NASA and the Pentagon is like trying to divide the USACE from bad ideas...!

 

[RoyJackson]

How far is the closest star? | The Sun's Nearest Neighbor

The nearest star, part of a three star system, is 4.37 light-years away, not millions. But, I grant that with our current technology it makes no difference in our ability to reach that star.

Actually, we have the technology...but not the will to spend the billions (trillions?) it would cost for a 100 year journey...less, if it was unmanned. I doubt there would be too many volunteers to leave their lives behind them and return in 100 years to what might be a totally unrecognizable future.

There is a theory for a warp type drive... We don't have the technology, but in a hundred years...who knows.
Alcubierre drive - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[/pine]

Actually, we have the technology...but not the will to spend the billions (trillions?) it would cost for a 100 year journey...less, if it was unmanned. I doubt there would be too many volunteers to leave their lives behind them and return in 100 years to what might be a totally unrecognizable future.

There is a theory for a warp type drive... We don't have the technology, but in a hundred years...who knows.
Alcubierre drive - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

one word: "wormholes"

trying to apply (long distance space travel) technology currently available...IMO is like the Amish pulling machinery with horses...

Mastering the the fabric of space/time is the ticket...

Not sure where I read this (will look for a link)....but there are more stars...that are closer to us, that we can't see (because they are too dim) than stars we can see...!!!

 

[MossRoad]

I guess that explains the seal team that jumped down on the moon first to make sure Armstrong was not harassed...? LoL...

FYI...NASA started off in the military...

C'mon...get real...it's has nothing to do with security clearances...it's the same contractor personnel (hardware/software)...If it's a person's job is to monitor a satellite's status...there is no need to know what that satellite is doing application wise...The Air Force has always had the last word on anything being launched off the planet by the gov. in any capacity...

IMO..."NASA" is no different than any (other than being unarmed) branch of the armed forces...sure they put on a public persona for the masses but C'mon...I don't think that every graduate from the Air Force academy reaches the same clearance level as the range officer on any NASA launch...

Trying to divide NASA and the Pentagon is like trying to divide the USACE from bad ideas...!

I'm glad I wasn't consuming a beverage when I read that first sentence!!! :thumbsup:

 

[dave1949]

Actually, we have the technology...but not the will to spend the billions (trillions?) it would cost for a 100 year journey...less, if it was unmanned. I doubt there would be too many volunteers to leave their lives behind them and return in 100 years to what might be a totally unrecognizable future.

There is a theory for a warp type drive... We don't have the technology, but in a hundred years...who knows.
Alcubierre drive - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

It would be a tall order I think to do it with current technology.

The Voyager space probe travels at 0.00567% of the speed of light. (17 km/sec)

To reach a star 4.37 light years from earth in 50 years requires traveling at 8.74% of the speed of light, or 1,541.45 times faster than Voyager(s) which I think attained their speed by planetary gravity slingshot.

That would require some type of propulsion system. This is a round-up of some other propulsion ideas:
Gallery: Future in Space

I don't think NASA will have any trouble filling the seats for a one-way journey to Mars or anywhere else. Mars One Over 200,000 applied within a short time and supposedly 705 of those are initially viable candidates.

 

[2LaneCruzer]

Oh contraire. Evolution is far more difficult to support than Creation. Evolution depends upon the acceptance of "Everything from Nothing." There are more gaps in that ludicrous theory than an old picket fence.

Absolute proof is pretty hard to come by in either school of thought.

 

[sd455dan]

I just finished watching the documentary! Excellent show! This is the very thing I'm talking about. Also interesting is the encounters astronauts have had. Really makes you wonder what people are seeing. Pilots are very reputable and they must be seeing something!

Glad you liked it.
Listening to the actual voice recordings adds a dimension that just doesn't come across when reading the text.
I believe that there would be more reported events by pilots if it wasn't such a risk to their flight status and professional careers.

 

[PapaPerk]

Glad you liked it. Listening to the actual voice recordings adds a dimension that just doesn't come across when reading the text. I believe that there would be more reported events by pilots if it wasn't such a risk to their flight status and professional careers.

Yes absolutely. To hear them talk there is no doubt they see something. And the controllers fully believe them as well!