Trailer Purchasing Advise

[Beezz27]

 

[Beezz27]

 

[JWR]

Looks like a top notch trailer. And well matched for your load. All sorts of good things about it including ability to haul longer stuff if need be. Littel odd spot for the spare tire. Nothing wrong, just a little odd.Most are mounted higher.

 

[ljjhouser]

Looks great. Your truck and trailer both look level and appear to be well suited for the load. The next step is to scale the truck and trailer when loaded. I scaled my trailer with tractor load and marked the best location of the tractor with bucket and box blade on the trailer deck. I scale mine from time to time at any CAT scale. Cost about $12 - Download their app. Or, if there is a public trash transfer in your area, they may scale it free. Just ask them. The transfer in our area will do that it you let them know BEFORE scaling so that they will not charge. You also need to know the weight of the trailer. I had to call the manufacturer to find the weight of my trailer. They told me it was 3700 pounds - but I scaled it at 3400 with added spare tire, toolbox, binders and all chains.

The trailer looks to be very well built. I like the wrapped tongue. It stabilizes the deck. And the length look great. I wish I had that extra 2 feet. There may come a time you want to add stake pockets and a rub rail to better faciliate tie downs and binders. It looks like it will tract very well and it looks like there is not need for using a weight dis. Hitch. (if the correct amount of weight in on the tongue as it is pictured).

Looks like a great choice. Good Job. And I like the dog!

 

[coobie]

Great looking trailer you will be very happy you went 22 ft..

 

[deezler]

Awesome, congrats! Nice looking trailer.

Those tie down bars in lieu of stake pockets are kinda funky. Wonder if they can really take 10,000lbs of chain tension for many years to come? And yeah that spare sure hangs kinda low, lol.

Beefy looking, overall. Do you know how much it weighs, empty?

p.s. not to safety police ya, but that box blade needs a dedicated strap also, for legal compliance in most/all states.

 

[Hay Dude]

Awesome, congrats! Nice looking trailer.

Those tie down bars in lieu of stake pockets are kinda funky. Wonder if they can really take 10,000lbs of chain tension for many years to come? And yeah that spare sure hangs kinda low, lol.

Beefy looking, overall. Do you know how much it weighs, empty?

p.s. not to safety police ya, but that box blade needs a dedicated strap also, for legal compliance in most/all states.

One side pocket or tie down bar is not expected to hold all 10K pounds Of tension.

 

[Beezz27]

The next step is to scale the truck and trailer when loaded.

Do you know how much it weighs, empty?

The manufacturer claimed empty weight is 3300lbs, I have not weighed it, though I do plan on weighing loaded and unloaded, so I'll keep the thread updated on that

Those tie down bars in lieu of stake pockets are kinda funky. Wonder if they can really take 10,000lbs of chain tension for many years to come?

Actually I almost didn't even consider this trailer because of those anchor points, but after looking at them in person, they seem to be welded in as well as any stake pocket I have seen, I will certainly keep a check on their integrity. I also may weld a few D-rings in place once I find my best hauling position for the tractor.

Littel odd spot for the spare tire.

And yeah that spare sure hangs kinda low

Yes the mount is welded in a straight out configuration, instead of at an upward angle, I could use the lower holes on the spare, but then the weight of the tire hanging would be above the studs rather than below, If it causes clearance issues I will change it.

And I like the dog!

Oh Cooper! He loves Saturdays because he gets to be outside all day, he knows if I don't leave to go to work then he gets to be outside, and up to this point he stays right with me so he doesn't have to be on a runner or in the dog lot.

 

[Beezz27]

 

[ovrszd]

Where you were parked in your pics, could you lower the ramps?

Designers tend to build the ramps on flat concrete. Then in reality situations the ramps supports are too tall.

Also when the ramps are down the bottom of the supports should be as far forward as the ramp hinge pins. If they are rearward of the hinge pins the ramps may try to fold up when loading.

Sitting on flat concrete, no load, the bottom of the supports should be 6" off the concrete.

Looks like a very strong trailer that will give you years of service.

 

[Beezz27]

Sitting on flat concrete, no load, the bottom of the supports should be 6" off the

Great point and Question, the answer is Yes the supports are "short" enough to lower when the trailer is loaded and they do sit just forward, with the front edge in front of the pivot pin/bar.

I am glad you mentioned the supports sitting 6in "high" unloaded because when I first dropped the ramps to load I thought "Oh No!, my supports are to short!" As I was loading they did bottom out and the truck suspension only flexed up slightly. I went ahead and cut several 2 x 6 "spacers" to keep with the trailer just incase the next loading zone is not ideally level. Certainly more possible to add spacers, than to shorten supports!

I'll snap a few more pics on the next loading occasion.

 

[ovrszd]

Great point and Question, the answer is Yes the supports are "short" enough to lower when the trailer is loaded and they do sit just forward, with the front edge in front of the pivot pin/bar.

I am glad you mentioned the supports sitting 6in "high" unloaded because when I first dropped the ramps to load I thought "Oh No!, my supports are to short!" As I was loading they did bottom out and the truck suspension only flexed up slightly. I went ahead and cut several 2 x 6 "spacers" to keep with the trailer just incase the next loading zone is not ideally level. Certainly more possible to add spacers, than to shorten supports!

I'll snap a few more pics on the next loading occasion.

My Son recently bought a used trailer with ramps as yours. First thing we did was shorten them. He carries two blocks but hasn't used them.

Glad yours are working for you!!!!

 

[Rock Crawler]

A big trailer can haul small loads. A small trailer can not haul big loads. My son and his F-150 hauling a young ladies little Ford car. He doesn't have air bags yet, but I've told him to save and get them....
It's a 20+2 Iron Bull 14k equipment trailer.

 

[paulfun9]

And a gooseneck would be much worse when it comes to going around tight corners or backing into tight spots.

Everyone raves on goosenecks because of how they tow and some people try and really push them. But they are a whole different animal.

A gooseneck is actually better for me than a bumper pull. My guess is you haven’t much experiance with them?

 

[LD1]

A gooseneck is actually better for me than a bumper pull. My guess is you haven’t much experiance with them?

You would be guessing wrong.

Own both. As I have said...some cases the BP is better. Some cases the GN is better. Not sure why that is such a hard concept to grasp? Too many diehard GN-only type people that cannot concede that there are times a BP trumps a GN....like pulling into or out of a narrow driveway for example.

 

[paulfun9]

You would be guessing wrong.

Own both. As I have said...some cases the BP is better. Some cases the GN is better. Not sure why that is such a hard concept to grasp? Too many diehard GN-only type people that cannot concede that there are times a BP trumps a GN....like pulling into or out of a narrow driveway for example.

Having both myself I understand what your saying but as the statement I replied to was written it seemed very uninformed and wasn’t till later posts that you clarified your statement.
For me I honestly haven’t had any issue getting into tight spaces with a GN and getting in and out of my own storage yard being the absolute tightest I can get the GN in with a lot less struggle than my BP.

 

[LD1]

Having both myself I understand what your saying but as the statement I replied to was written it seemed very uninformed and wasn’t till later posts that you clarified your statement.
For me I honestly haven’t had any issue getting into tight spaces with a GN and getting in and out of my own storage yard being the absolute tightest I can get the GN in with a lot less struggle than my BP.

Take a GN and a BP of equal lengths.

Set some cones up to simulate a 90° like pulling off a road into a driveway.

See which one can make a tighter turn into a narrower driveway without crushing cones (which in reality would run the axles over a culvert or mailbox).

 

[paulfun9]

Take a GN and a BP of equal lengths.

Set some cones up to simulate a 90° like pulling off a road into a driveway.

See which one can make a tighter turn into a narrower driveway without crushing cones (which in reality would run the axles over a culvert or mailbox).

I drive every day, I haul a trailer, I have to back trailers multiple times a day around things way more valuable then cones and don’t seem to have issue. Most of my driving is with a much bigger truck than most here ever drive and trailers that require a lot more room to get in or out. So towing with my pick up truck and getting in or out of tight spots doesn’t seem to be a problem, haven’t hit anything since I was. Teenager and always seem to be able to get into the place I am going weather backing in or going in forward.
I prefer a GN over a BP for 99% of my uses so when your ready with those cones come over and set them up! We will have a cook out and some beers watch the neighbors struggle between trying different things with each then you and I can see who can get in and out of my storage lot repeatedly with both and forget the cones, I will line up the entrance area with some expensive cars and the looser who hits them pays for beers, steaks and repairs?

 

[LD1]

I drive every day, I haul a trailer, I have to back trailers multiple times a day around things way more valuable then cones and don’t seem to have issue. Most of my driving is with a much bigger truck than most here ever drive and trailers that require a lot more room to get in or out. So towing with my pick up truck and getting in or out of tight spots doesn’t seem to be a problem, haven’t hit anything since I was. Teenager and always seem to be able to get into the place I am going weather backing in or going in forward.
I prefer a GN over a BP for 99% of my uses so when your ready with those cones come over and set them up! We will have a cook out and some beers watch the neighbors struggle between trying different things with each then you and I can see who can get in and out of my storage lot repeatedly with both and forget the cones, I will line up the entrance area with some expensive cars and the looser who hits them pays for beers, steaks and repairs?

If it involves a 90° turn a BP of equal length will do it in a tighter area. If its a 180° turn the GN will win with the ability to jacknife.

Its not even a debate. There is only one right answer.

This is a driveway I CANNOT get a GN into. The drive is too narrow and the road isnt wide enough to not have the GN axles stay on the drive. And its a 3' deep ditch on the opposite side and its a narrow country road

While challenging, this driveway is doable with a BP due to its nature to follow the tow vehicle better rather than cut corners and end up wrapped around a concrete pillar.

Its clear you dont believe me, thats fine. You are entitled to your incorrect opinion.

 

[paulfun9]

If it involves a 90° turn a BP of equal length will do it in a tighter area. If its a 180° turn the GN will win with the ability to jacknife.

Its not even a debate. There is only one right answer.

This is a driveway I CANNOT get a GN into. The drive is too narrow and the road isnt wide enough to not have the GN axles stay on the drive. And its a 3' deep ditch on the opposite side and its a narrow country road
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While challenging, this driveway is doable with a BP due to its nature to follow the tow vehicle better rather than cut corners and end up wrapped around a concrete pillar.

Its clear you dont believe me, thats fine. You are entitled to your incorrect opinion.

If you think that is tight you need to come visit and see mine!

By the way, It’s clear you have no understanding of my opinion !

I think it’s funny you got all but hurt over my response to your first post. Which clearly didn’t give your point correctly and my offer for steaks and beer would only give us something to laugh at while my incompetent neighbors entertain us. I sincerely doubt ethier one of us would have to worry about hitting anything but making it tight would serve for both of us to prove we have merits to what we say. So who is wrong here? I look at your photo and can assure one thing, that is I wouldn’t fret over which trailer I decided to bring as I could get in there with anything that I have that attaches to my pick up truck!
No go figure how and we will both be correct!