Thoughts on mega wind and solar projects

/ Thoughts on mega wind and solar projects #401  
Keep an eye out for used panels. They lose capacity over time, so get replaced. I just saw a place in Eugene that is selling hundreds of used 3x5 panels for $30 each. They were originally 270 watt panels and have been discontinued by the manufacturer.

Bring is a great place. But be prepared for funky. The stock wood is so over priced as to be comedic. But sometimes there are real scores. Got a Bochstik stud nailer for $15 that works great.
 
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I think wind farms are a blight on the countryside. I lived near Amarillo, Tx as a teenager and graduated in 1983. After my Dad died in 1998 I hadn't been back until my 40th high school reunion in 2023.
I started seeing many wind farms after passing Vernon, Tx to Amarillo. Once I made the turn north to Borger the wind farms just destroyed the scenic beauty I remembered.
There's is a scene from Landman in season 2 that has good discussion about wind farms and oil.
I agree with what they do to the countryside. Do those areas have many home living beneath them?
 
/ Thoughts on mega wind and solar projects #408  
I agree with what they do to the countryside. Do those areas have many home living beneath them?
You don’t have to live below them to be affected or harmed by them.
 
/ Thoughts on mega wind and solar projects #409  
As a rule you want the wind turbines no closer than 1/4 mile and preferably 1/2 from houses. This mitigates shadow flicker and any noise.
 
/ Thoughts on mega wind and solar projects #410  
As a rule you want the wind turbines no closer than 1/4 mile and preferably 1/2 from houses. This mitigates shadow flicker and any noise.
Couldn’t imagine having to look at that trash from one’s home.
 
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You don’t have to live below them to be affected or harmed by them.
most definitely Im completely against them. I was just curious if there were houses in the midst of them. Our county just kicked out another solar company that wanted to use 1800 acres. Its funny bc in our comprehensive plan wind turbines and solar farms are Undesirable. Which is what the people who took the survey said.
 
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As a rule you want the wind turbines no closer than 1/4 mile and preferably 1/2 from houses. This mitigates shadow flicker and any noise.
A better rule would be not at all. Or subsidize the county for rooftop solar with that company. Seems like there should be better alternatives than this
 
/ Thoughts on mega wind and solar projects #414  
And easily debunked :D

"debunked"
wind turbine carbon footprint
I disagree with the effeminate man's assertion that oil is limited. However oil is created there is plenty of it and more is being discovered.
7:35 I'm pretty sure there are massive subsidies for solar and wind projects.

And the hypocrisy of the climate religion preachers is hilarious. Until they live off grid away from the dangerous oil products they demonize they are full of hot air.

I do believe that Nicolai Tesla discovered free energy and this should be explored. IMO, Windmills and solar panels ain't it for the majority.
 
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I tried to find data in the past on how soon a wind turbine makes up for the energy to build it. The answer was hard to find and of course would vary by the location. I saw numbers of around 3 years. I’m not sure if I believe it or not.

I worked extensively on a wind farm before I retired about 6 years ago. My disappointment is the amount of maintenance required. The included pictures is two of the 60 turbines. It’s hard to tell but the house on top had a major fire one evening, nobody even knew about it until the next day. The second one suffered a lightning strike and blew a blade out.
 
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"debunked"
wind turbine carbon footprint
I disagree with the effeminate man's assertion that oil is limited.

But even the manly man with the cowboy hat, pick-up truck and pretty girl said so? If you cannot trust that guy you might be g^y or something? Better check to make sure?

However oil is created there is plenty of it and more is being discovered.

Seems like less all the time. (burned into the Air, and such).

Sort of funny. You are East Texas, right? You know 100 years there was an East Texas Oil boom? Museum down in Kilgore about that. Used to be so much in the ground, Oil would just "seep" out. Called "seeps."

Family farm has a creek running through it. Called "Greasy Creek" because there used to be an Oil sheen on it. With all the Oil now gone, the creek runs clean.


7:35 I'm pretty sure there are massive subsidies for solar and wind projects.

2026 (sorry to quote myself, from elsewhere):
Here is the math.

US (still) imports around 5 million barrels of Crude Oil per day. Generally long-chain heavy Oil for Diesel and such. With prices now around $100 per Barrel, wholesale, that is about 5E6 Barrels x 365 days x $100 = $185E9 wholesale import value. Just the standard 10% Revenue Tariff should be 10% of that, or $18.5E9 per year. Instead – nothing. Exempt. Total Freeloaders.

Now Solar PV. Imports around 50E9 Watts, at around 10 cents per Watt import value. With a 50% Punitive Tariff. That works out to: 50E9 x $0.10 x 50% = $2.5E9. $2.5 Billion.

So Solar PV is paying MASSIVE Taxes. Punitive Taxes. And still eating into Oil and ICE. All while OIL and ICE are both Free-Loading US. If anyone cared about “taxpayers” and such.

And the hypocrisy of the climate religion preachers is hilarious. Until they live off grid away from the dangerous oil products they demonize they are full of hot air.

I am pretty sure I saw some Oil Wells using Electricity the other day. Some of that came from Texas Solar PV. Should we report them to the Purity Police? I am a Law and Order sort of guy.

I do believe that Nicolai Tesla discovered free energy and this should be explored.

You can find it, too.

Here is the path to such a discovery: Face East and stay up all night. It will dawn on you in the morning.

IMO, Windmills and solar panels ain't it for the majority.

On the current path, you are correct, in the US they are mostly for the Top End.

Top End investors put them in and send the Electricity to all the Poor(er) Folks with Electricity Meters. And then the moron-mass of America sends them money every month.

Called Capitalism or some such nonsense thing. Really just looks like a lot of dumb and broke Bottom End folks.
 
/ Thoughts on mega wind and solar projects #417  
Here's a new and unanticipated benefit of wind & solar farms: When and if a tornado does thru, not only will you be out of power, but the flying glass chards, metal stands, tower parts, batteries, and the rest of the junk will be tearing apart any and all structures in the area of the path. Take a look at what happened to western Michigan a few weeks ago. Survivors are still spitting out solar parts. There might be enough parts to collect to jury-rig a temporary home 'generator' !
 
/ Thoughts on mega wind and solar projects #418  
I sent that link to a friend and she came back with an AI response:

Where the criticisms are fair​

1. Intermittency is a real limitation
Wind power isn’t constant—if the wind isn’t blowing, output drops. That’s a legitimate issue. Grids have to compensate with storage (like batteries) or backup generation (often natural gas).

2. Materials and manufacturing impacts
Wind turbines require steel, concrete, fiberglass, and rare earth elements. Mining and manufacturing those have environmental costs. So no, wind energy isn’t “perfectly clean” from cradle to grave.

3. Land use and local opposition
Large wind farms take up space and can face pushback due to noise, aesthetics, or wildlife concerns (like bird and bat deaths). Those are real trade-offs.


Where the criticisms are misleading or overstated​

1. “Wind turbines are worse than fossil fuels” → Not true
Across their full lifecycle, wind turbines produce far less greenhouse gas emissions than coal, oil, or natural gas. This is one of the most well-established findings in energy research.

2. “They can’t meaningfully power society” → False
Wind already supplies a significant share of electricity in many regions (like Texas, ironically). It’s not a silver bullet, but it does scale and contribute meaningfully.

3. “They never pay back their energy cost” → Outdated claim
Modern turbines typically “pay back” the energy used to build them in less than a year. After that, it’s net positive energy for decades.

4. Waste problem is exaggerated
Old turbine blades are difficult to recycle, yes—but this is a relatively small waste stream compared to fossil fuel pollution, and recycling solutions are improving.


The bigger picture​

Tommy’s perspective in Landman reflects the worldview of someone deeply embedded in the oil and gas industry. That doesn’t automatically make him wrong—but it does mean:

  • He emphasizes the weaknesses of alternatives
  • He downplays the downsides of fossil fuels
  • He frames energy as an either/or battle, when in reality it’s a mix
In truth, modern energy systems are moving toward hybrid solutions:

  • Wind + solar
  • Battery storage
  • Natural gas as backup (for now)
  • Nuclear in some regions

Bottom line​

Some of the criticisms are grounded in reality—but the overall argument is selective and slanted. Wind energy has real limitations, but it’s still one of the cleanest and most scalable energy sources available today.
 
/ Thoughts on mega wind and solar projects #419  
View attachment 5336727View attachment 5336728I tried to find data in the past on how soon a wind turbine makes up for the energy to build it. The answer was hard to find and of course would vary by the location. I saw numbers of around 3 years. I’m not sure if I believe it or not.

I worked extensively on a wind farm before I retired about 6 years ago. My disappointment is the amount of maintenance required. The included pictures is two of the 60 turbines. It’s hard to tell but the house on top had a major fire one evening, nobody even knew about it until the next day. The second one suffered a lightning strike and blew a blade out.

I see the wind turbines in the mountains in Western Maryland.
Uglier than a pimple faced geek in a beauty contest….
I wondered what happens if it’s real dry and one of those big doghouses catches fire? Could the wind blow sparks into a potentially dry forest and then we have a forest fire?

The solar panels certainly have their share of weather challenges, especially in cold climates, they make sense in the south & open southwest, but the windmills are awful. Ugly, a lot of moving parts and a lot of dead birds.
 
/ Thoughts on mega wind and solar projects #420  
"debunked"
wind turbine carbon footprint
I disagree with the effeminate man's assertion that oil is limited. However oil is created there is plenty of it and more is being discovered.
7:35 I'm pretty sure there are massive subsidies for solar and wind projects.
The gas being discovered is nothing short of amazing. PA has a lot. I hope they go after all of it to try to help this once great industrial state out of the rust belt and into a renewed prosperity.


And the hypocrisy of the climate religion preachers is hilarious. Until they live off grid away from the dangerous oil products they demonize they are full of hot air.

I do believe that Nicolai Tesla discovered free energy and this should be explored. IMO, Windmills and solar panels ain't it for the majority.

Agree
 

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