Those #+%^ engineers!

[jjeff]

More to do with me being a bull in China shop and wannabe diy plumber, installing a simple second shower Wand in my cabins upstairs shower first one I replaced was all metal and fine when I built the place but I tiled surround around top of fiberglass shower walls recently so I replaced shower wand over tightened cracked the plastic screw in fitting to shower down spout think I learned my lesson? nope cracked second new shower wand plastic screw in fitting. Less is more for cripes sakes. Feel I'm spending our families retirement fund in shower wands lol. Third time's a charm I hope. Wish I could find one with a metal screw in fitting to shower down spout coming out of wall. Why does the the shower engineer dept ,and bean counters feel the need to use so much plastic on a device that's used daily? Why did I replace the first all metal fitting wand? Maybe I can retro fit existing components of original wand or just reinstall all metal old fitting and be done with it.

 

[RandyT]

Interesting. Why did small engine makers quit putting in drain plugs? Turning a lawn mower over on it's side to drain the oil is really dumb.

Go turn any self propelled push mower on its side and you will find out why there is no drain plug. You couldn't get to if it had one. And I suspect that is the same reason they have removed the drain plug from the chain case on snowmobile because you couldn't access it if it was there.

 

[Jstpssng]

Interesting. Why did small engine makers quit putting in drain plugs? Turning a lawn mower over on it's side to drain the oil is really dumb.

The manual for my DR Trimmer said not to change the oil, just add as needed. The crankcase doesn't hold much anyways, around a pint if memory serves me correctly.
I guess they sell more engines that way. Although I've had it about 10 years and never added any.

 

[jjeff]

Im hoping non serviceable 4 strokes and hydro transmissions at least run a premium long lasting oil but probably not.

 

[KennyG]

The manual for my DR Trimmer said not to change the oil, just add as needed. The crankcase doesn't hold much anyways, around a pint if memory serves me correctly.
I guess they sell more engines that way. Although I've had it about 10 years and never added any.

Is it a 2 stroke so the oil just lubricates the drive?

 

[Oaktree]

What small 4 stroke engines don't have oil drain plugs? The JD rider mower I bought this past summer does, as does the Predator I put in my logsplitter. In fact, the Predator has 2. You'd think if anyone was going to cut a corner it would be HF.

 

[dodge man]

I’ve had push mowers that had no drain plug, you drain it by turning them on their side and drain it through the dipstick tube. It’s not as bad as it sounds.

 

[jjeff]

I noticed yrs ago cheap 4 stroke push mowers stopped putting drain plugs in I have a old troy ilt brand 4 stroke back pack blower without drain plug. I
As others said smaller 4 strokes can be turned on its side to drain crankcase oil thru the fill cap though.

 

[QRTRHRS]

Walmart handicap parking! We use it for my wife. The stores around me have a space for a van or maybe a mini bus then a bunch of yellow painted lines where they could have placed at least two more spots. I don't ever see a mini bus in the van spot but I do see vehicles parked over the yellow lines.

 

[not2old]

I’ve had push mowers that had no drain plug, you drain it by turning them on their side and drain it through the dipstick tube. It’s not as bad as it sounds.
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This woks fine for mine, actually nicer than the old mowers with a drain plug on the bottom.

 

[mjonesnh]

What small 4 stroke engines don't have oil drain plugs? The JD rider mower I bought this past summer does, as does the Predator I put in my logsplitter. In fact, the Predator has 2. You'd think if anyone was going to cut a corner it would be HF.

My 10-year-old Lawn boy push mower does not have drain plug. Turn on side to drain oil. My son's 3 year old push mower with B&S engine also does not have drain plug. His states to turn on side to change oil or just add oil when needed and never change.

 

[KennyG]

What small 4 stroke engines don't have oil drain plugs? The JD rider mower I bought this past summer does, as does the Predator I put in my logsplitter. In fact, the Predator has 2. You'd think if anyone was going to cut a corner it would be HF.

I have two push mowers, one with a Honda engine and one with a B&S engine and neither have drain plugs. Small Honda 4 stroke snowblowers haven't ever had drain plugs. I guess the Chinese companies HF sources from just haven't caught up yet on their cloning.

Turning them over works but makes it hard to not make a mess.

 

[JasperFrank]

I'm fixing a wake up clock that was a present to the Wife last Christmas. The alarm time button was not working any more. After just one year, just out of warranty. I have it all apart now. I am always shocked at bad design. This was designed to fail after going in and looking at it. They shall not win, because I'm going to rebuild it and make it more stout. They don't get to win, making all this stuff, with obvious failure points.

 

[WinterDeere]

My 10-year-old Lawn boy push mower does not have drain plug. Turn on side to drain oil. My son's 3 year old push mower with B&S engine also does not have drain plug. His states to turn on side to change oil or just add oil when needed and never change.

My 1973 Briggs-powered Toro push mower has a drain plug on the bottom, but it's so dirty under there that I never use it. Much easier to just blow the top side of the mower clean with leaf blower or compressed air, then tip the thing up on two wheels to drain thru the filler neck. Not sure why anyone would even bother to do otherwise, on such a tiny machine.

Now if I recall, the crank case on my 1984 Woods rotary cutter (brush hog) did not have a drain plug, just a single 1/2" NPT plug in the top. I could turn that thing over with the loader to drain, but I'd guess it'd be easier to use a pump to suck it out. It had a bad lower shaft seal when I bought it, so I got an easy oil change out of it when I replaced that seal, and I'd already sold the thing before it was due for its next change.

 

[rontaki]

I'm fixing a wake up clock that was a present to the Wife last Christmas. The alarm time button was not working any more. After just one year, just out of warranty. I have it all apart now. I am always shocked at bad design. This was designed to fail after going in and looking at it. They shall not win, because I'm going to rebuild it and make it more stout. They don't get to win, making all this stuff, with obvious failure points.

The last alarm clock I bought was so complicated to use that I just use my phone nowadays.

 

[jjeff]

Electronic engineers why do they make tech so complicated for me anyway. It should be if I want to make a call or get the time on my wrist watch I should be easily able to. Instead I'm taking pics when I'm trying to call some one and my watch displays my daily step count instead.

 

[Jstpssng]

The last alarm clock I bought was so complicated to use that I just use my phone nowadays.

I try not to use an alarm, but had gotten into the habit of using my phone. Then my company issued me a new iphone...
"To use alarm go to Health".
Or my old twelve dollar Walmart clock radio.

 

[Shawn T. W.]

Both my 2000w Honda Generator, and my Generac semi-trash pump are emptied via the fill/dipstick, the Generac actually has two of them, Honda sells an extension that screws into the place of the dipstick, which makes it easier to pout out ...

My 4 stroke trimmer doesn't even have an oil sump, but uses mixed 2 stroke gas ... Crazy design!

I don't use an alarm clock!

 

[Oz_Kioti]

I was a presenter/announcer/DJ back in the 70's with a taxpayer-funded national broadcasting outfit. At the station where I worked, they brought in a team above my pay-grade to redesign the layout for a new studio. Part of my job was editing audio using two (large) reel-to-reel tape machines, side-by-side, as controls on each were frequently used together for cueing up a tape at a certain spot, then releasing the pause control on the other, and hitting another control almost instantaneously, etc etc.

So when the "suits" asked me for feedback on their proposed re-design, I brought up their proposed placement of those two tape machines - either side of a wide console! I demonstrated a typical editing session, and the critical placement of them, and said it would be unworkable.

Their response - what would you know, get over it, it looks much neater our way!

 

[DarkBlack]

What small 4 stroke engines don't have oil drain plugs?

No drain plug, in fact, no oil changes needed at all, according to the manufacturer

675EXi Series™ Petrol Lawn Mower Engine | Briggs & Stratton

The 675EXi Series engine combines powerful performance with easy operation and maintenance. No regular oil change is needed, just an occasional top-up.

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